Your claim that a country has the right to commit genocide

Where the fuck did I even say that

Honestly, take a chill pill, you’re clearly not meant for nasty geopolitical discussions that are obviously uncomfortable but a reality.

That said, your arguments to justify trade and friendly relations with a genocidal nation are not convincing.

I think you need to prove how Israel threatens EU for EU to tell other countries what they can’t do, not the other way around. While that doesn’t happen - countries are free to do what they want, they are not puppet states.

This is your comment;

By not colluding. By following international law. By not gifting lucrative trade deals and contract to genocidal thugs. By not granting special observer status within the EU to a mass-murdering nation. By not trading with settler-colonial ethnostates. By not wishing “happy international friendship day” to Israel on official EU social media accounts. By doing what semi-decent countries, such as South Africa do when there is a bloodbath.

So let’s go over it.

The human reaction to such atrocities - the holocaust of our time - is not: “how do I get in on this”.

EU has not tried to join the conflict or profit from it. We have, however, sent assist.

By not colluding (in genocide)

They would need to show EU and member states knowingly assisted particular unlawful acts. Merely maintaining diplomatic relations, trade, or research cooperation does not legally equal collusion.

By following international law.

Same as before. EU is not world police.

By not gifting lucrative trade deals and contract to genocidal thugs.

Are you saying people of Israel does not deserve equal treatment to others because of what their government did? The deals are not done with Benyamin. They’re literally paying for the programmes they participate it. That rhetoric comes awfully close to genocide supporters.

By not trading with settler-colonial ethnostates

EU countries can do that. No one bars them from doing so. However, that is not the function of EU. Funnily enough, international law does not contain a general prohibition on trading with countries somebody classifies as “settler-colonial ethnostates.”

By not wishing “happy international friendship day” to Israel on official EU social media accounts.

Are you talking about random tweet congratulating Israel on 75th year of independence, a country full of innocent people, not Netanyahu, IDF or military? Interesting. Did you know China and Russia, who are borderline their enemies, did it too? By the same logic, should we become hostile towards every American just because of what Trump does? Same for China, Russia, Thailand, much of Africa, etc… If you say no, then you’re a hypocrite. If you say yes, you’re a dangerous person to society and stability of the world. We still maintain semi-normal relations with Russians themselves despite what is happening you know… one of my best friends is Russian.

By doing what semi-decent countries, such as South Africa

You do realize most of the times countries defend someone, is not because they care about the thing they’re defending, but because of other ulterior motives? No one even cared about the Jews in WW2 till they invaded big players and everyone needed to mobilize the population into fighting against them, and Jews was a good event to pick for propaganda (not that it didn’t happen, but it’s simply not why countries went against Germany)

Pointless complaints? Your complaints are illogical in the first place. Israel has not threatened EU markets or safety, there is no legal basis for the EU upper body to tell other countries they cannot trade with Israel. You’re angry at the wrong government because you do not understand how EU operates. Fix yourself and be angry at specific countries. Here’s anology for you - this is like blaming all people of color X because what some in the group did.

This is why I asked. We have ongoing genocide at our doorstep, but people only speak about genocide happening in Gaza.

EU… selling weapons? What? EU doesn’t have some central arms factory they sell weapons from. You’re thinking of some country. Some countries have done a full embargo, including stopping arms trade. There are others who have not (Greece?).

I don’t think you understand EU.

Ehh.

It really isn’t that hard to understand the basic geopolitic neutrality concept of “support Israel’s existence and security, support Palestinian statehood and civilian rights, oppose Hamas, and oppose Israeli policies that violate international law”. EU is not a militaristic union, and each country can diplomatically mostly do what they want. Hell, even some states are borderline hostile towards one another. It’s not called “United States of Europe”. There has been fair amount of pushback, from nasty public denouncations, to ending trade deals (including military), etc, but it’s all done by individual countries. Israel has never threatened EU, so EU upper body has no legal right to impose total trade embargo to Israel. Spain even banned fuel shipments which provide other EU countries. Stop thinking of EU like US. Yes, since EU union contains many countries, some would naturally, statistically, lean towards supporting Israel, but if you’re going to then claim entire EU is like that, is basically how racism gets born. We are constantly getting threatened by a much larger and scarier country, with multiple drone incidents already, and now this weird ass mysterious CIA visit (which happened before Russia invaded Ukraine) being like a bad omen, I cannot express how much I would not want to go around pissing off US right now, which could be our strongest ally, just to meddle in middle fucking east. Get a grip.

Yes. Why would EU shift focus from themselves to middle east and make themselves the next US (self proclaimed world police) that everyone hates for getting themselves involved in middle east? Answer me.

There are still hundred bombs raining down on Gaza every day? Do you not understand the word “relatively”? Why would EU get involved in middle east when they have their own war?

I’ve actually pirated some games I bought (including GTA 5) because it’s easier to play them without the stupid DRMs/protection, activation, anticheats messing up mods, online features nagging me, etc.

The only scene I see flourishing is game modding.

Are you talking about Gaza? You do realize Russian war is far more deadly, serious, globally-impacting and an actual threat to the union? No one wants to get involved in the middle east (except US for whatever reason, constantly) and things there are relatively calm for almost a year now, so that feels like a weird thing to switch over to instead of focusing on Russia

They will use it because it’s convenient

Using web without ublock is amongst the most inconvenient things I’ve experienced

But where is the search engine? Aren’t they relying on Google?

Autocrats get hard when things are named after them

And liberty city stories

Neither does github

Someone more knowledgeable in the matter - what’s up with Poland? Russia constantly threatens UK, they have launched drones into Baltics, together with Belarus they try to bring sleeper agents into Latvia and Lithuania, they even threaten France, but Poland? Feels like that is amongst the most silent “fronts” yet Poland acts like they’re next. I’d actually be worried about Lithuania or Latvia.

It’s funny that so many people are disappointed that a GTA game looks like a GTA game. The absurd hype is going to come back to bite R* in the ass

What has changed in the past 20 years?