Why bizarrely?
It has never been different, the western media doesn’t report inconvenient facts that don’t fit the narrative of the evil dictator.
People should be more sceptical and research stuff.
It just seems absurd to me that so many people in such a populous country are so uniformly super-conservative. The equivalent in the US, Trump, doesn’t even have such a super majority despite amazingly effective propaganda.
Sure, maybe Russian culture is just super conservative to begin with, but that seems odd considering how the USSR was able to even form and still enjoy fond memories among those who lived through it. Though, to be fair, the USSR was far from the most progressive state, and had its own conservative flavour, most notably an intolerance for homosexuality.
Russians credit Putin for taking them out of the absolute nightmare of 90’s (somewhat correctly) and for resisting the west (also somewhat correctly). Because you are right, Russians are not stupid sheep, they do know that west is reponsible and having the choice between nationalist like Putin and nazi western puppets like Navalny they chosen the former.
"It just seems absurd to me that so many people in such a populous country are so uniformly super-conservative. "
I think you might be young and inexperienced in (geo)politics.
Otherwise you would know that people tend to rally around the flag and support strong leaders in times of trouble.
despite not being a fan of their usual politics.
US presidents not sure of getting re-elected can just start a war and their approval goes up astronomically.
In Russia I believe the communist party scores in the high 30%, the biggest opposition.
Not exactly conservative.
I think you are also misinformed about the USSR, they were progressive in many ways.
It had more rights for minorities decades before the west, and many black Americans prefered to live there after being discriminated in their own country.
Also consider the times when talking about LGBTQ rights.
Nowhere in the world did they get treated right despite being officially decriminalised.
Which was the case (for a period) even before Stalin in the USSR, while the US did it in…2003.
Plenty of other aspects, such as women’s rights, workers rights were vastly more progressive than anywhere in the west. Swiss women didn’t gain the right to vote until 1971
Again you’re focussing on LGBTQ while they were also wrong just like most other countries decades ago is unfair.
Yeah, you’re a bit late to the party of telling me that it’s all about defending the country. “Young and inexperienced in geopolitics” is also a bit of an assumption and just a character assessment rather than a response to my point. It’s a bit hard to look past what is essentially an insult and a dismissal.
Also, you spend a lot of time explaining that the USSR was just like everyone else in their lack of LGBT acceptance. Yes, I know. Conservative. Like I said. And obviously they were ahead in terms of worker’s rights. Socialism, yknow? I never stated that the USSR was entirely conservative, just that they had some conservative elements, and used LGBT non-acceptance as an example of that conservatism.
This is starting to devolve into nothing more than a fight, and it’s stressing me out, so I’d rather not continue and just accept that you were right about their acceptance of Putin.
Things would have gone much more smoothly if you’d just posted this:
https://www.levada.ru/en/ratings/
I looked it up myself, and bizarrely, they do seem to like him according to the polls.
Why bizarrely?
It has never been different, the western media doesn’t report inconvenient facts that don’t fit the narrative of the evil dictator.
People should be more sceptical and research stuff.
It just seems absurd to me that so many people in such a populous country are so uniformly super-conservative. The equivalent in the US, Trump, doesn’t even have such a super majority despite amazingly effective propaganda.
Sure, maybe Russian culture is just super conservative to begin with, but that seems odd considering how the USSR was able to even form and still enjoy fond memories among those who lived through it. Though, to be fair, the USSR was far from the most progressive state, and had its own conservative flavour, most notably an intolerance for homosexuality.
Russians credit Putin for taking them out of the absolute nightmare of 90’s (somewhat correctly) and for resisting the west (also somewhat correctly). Because you are right, Russians are not stupid sheep, they do know that west is reponsible and having the choice between nationalist like Putin and nazi western puppets like Navalny they chosen the former.
When you put it like that, it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for having the patience to put up with my ignorance.
"It just seems absurd to me that so many people in such a populous country are so uniformly super-conservative. "
I think you might be young and inexperienced in (geo)politics.
Otherwise you would know that people tend to rally around the flag and support strong leaders in times of trouble.
despite not being a fan of their usual politics.
US presidents not sure of getting re-elected can just start a war and their approval goes up astronomically.
In Russia I believe the communist party scores in the high 30%, the biggest opposition.
Not exactly conservative.
I think you are also misinformed about the USSR, they were progressive in many ways.
It had more rights for minorities decades before the west, and many black Americans prefered to live there after being discriminated in their own country.
Also consider the times when talking about LGBTQ rights.
Nowhere in the world did they get treated right despite being officially decriminalised.
Which was the case (for a period) even before Stalin in the USSR, while the US did it in…2003.
Plenty of other aspects, such as women’s rights, workers rights were vastly more progressive than anywhere in the west. Swiss women didn’t gain the right to vote until 1971
Again you’re focussing on LGBTQ while they were also wrong just like most other countries decades ago is unfair.
Yeah, you’re a bit late to the party of telling me that it’s all about defending the country. “Young and inexperienced in geopolitics” is also a bit of an assumption and just a character assessment rather than a response to my point. It’s a bit hard to look past what is essentially an insult and a dismissal.
Also, you spend a lot of time explaining that the USSR was just like everyone else in their lack of LGBT acceptance. Yes, I know. Conservative. Like I said. And obviously they were ahead in terms of worker’s rights. Socialism, yknow? I never stated that the USSR was entirely conservative, just that they had some conservative elements, and used LGBT non-acceptance as an example of that conservatism.
This is starting to devolve into nothing more than a fight, and it’s stressing me out, so I’d rather not continue and just accept that you were right about their acceptance of Putin.