• SadSadSatellite @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    My partner and I are like this. We’ve been together for 14 years and are legit best friends.

    I have a feeling too many people paired off right away and decided their first serious relationship was the one, and never actually found an equal. Maybe they married more out of fear of being alone rather than actual desire, or they just can’t tell the difference between sexual novelty and love.

    Even a lot of my married friends start identifying more with boomer humor than romance after 2 or 3 years. Way too many communication issue, or ideas of traditional roles or how things ‘should be’ leading to resentment or exasperation.

    Court long and marry late. And don’t hide your real self when dating.

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      I dunno. Dating long can bring its own gigantic bag of issues. You will have to build every relationship from the start. If you have a bag of expectations, fears, maybe even hard trauma that you project onto the relationship early on, it will make it more difficult to build the relationship.

      “Oh my god he is not answering the phone. He is probably cheating on me right now how ex#3 did.”

      “She said she loves me after only week three of us having a thing. This is just like crazy ex#5.”

      “He didn’t say he loves me after its been four weeks already. He is probably only affectionate now but will turn cold and distant like ex#4.”

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        5 months ago

        But those are all personality traits you need to discover and address before you’re married. If you’re the one bringing those concerns, you need to get yourself in check before jumping into long term relationships.

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    5 months ago

    That’s limerence.

    A more stable relationship is when feelings crystalize, but until then, there’s limerence. Two-way limerent relationships are as unstable as a bottle of undiluted nitroglycerin. In any case, limerent relationships are quite common, and are the stuff of music, art, and poetry.

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      A central feature of limerence for Tennov was the fact that her participants really saw the object of their affection’s personal flaws, but simply overlooked them or found them attractive.[32][28] Tennov calls this “crystallization”, after a description by Stendhal in his 1821 treatise On Love. This “crystallized” version of a love object, with accentuated features, is what Tennov calls a “limerent object”, or “LO”.[33]

      For Tennov, sexual desire is an essential aspect of limerence[34] but the desire for emotional commitment is greater.[35] The sexual desires of Tennov’s interviewees were overshadowed by their desire for their beloved to contact them, invite them out and reciprocate their passion.[30]

      Limerence can be difficult to understand for those who have never experienced it, and it is thus often derided and dismissed as undesirable, some kind of pathology, ridiculous fantasy or a construct of romantic fiction.[36]

      The wiki page you linked is saying kind of the opposite about crystalization then what you are saying.

    • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      God lemmy is worse than reddit with people being negative about others happiness. If you are so unhappy you need to spoil other peoples happiness you need to get help.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    If I can quote a thing: happiness isn’t having what you want, it’s wanting what you’ve got.

    Points to anyone who can name the source without using Google.

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      Yeah, it gives big “Where are the females like this?” energy, I can definitely see it being written by a lonely chauvinist dirtball. I hope not because it is cute, but the Internet is the Internet, so…

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        It’s…weird to me that not only is this not true for you guys or anyone you know, but you have a hard time imagining it could be true.

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          Every single long term relationship I’ve ever been witness to has been defined by either eventual resentment between partners, or a pervasive sense of apathy between them. The people I’ve seen who really “make it last” aren’t affectionate towards one another after being together for decades: they’re codependent. One person supports another person’s narcissism and the other person facilitates their partner’s alcoholism. That sort of thing.

          On a more fundamental level, I’m not sure I even believe that the concept of lifelong partners or lifelong marriage is natural for human beings. Being a part of a community, sure, but being emotionally attached to the same person in the same way forever? Not really. I think it’s in our nature to constantly grow, and that typically means growing apart. In fact, that might be a lot healthier for people than the alternative.

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            We’re planning our 30th anniversary party. We still flirt and are both best friends and lovers and don’t pass each other in a room without a caress or joke. I’m not bragging so much as to say it happens. Sometimes people keep the remnants of their initial crush and combine it with respect and lust for a whole lifetime. The Pheromones are very strong.