EDIT: It’s honestly hard to believe how intense and personal some of the hostility in this thread is. I understand objecting to something when there is a valid concern, especially about ethics or consent. But this is something else entirely. It feels less like people are engaging with the actual work and more like they are reacting to the mere presence of AI in any form, regardless of context.

I don’t think LLMs are universally good or bad. I think they are very very bad at a large number of things, especially when people try to use them as shortcuts in places where care, originality, or expertise (or human understanding and subsequent empathy) are required. But they are also extremely effective in other use cases when used with skill, intention, and thought. That is the position I hold. It is nuanced. It does not dismiss the criticisms people have raised, but it also does not treat every use of the technology as automatically unethical or invalid.

What I did was not a random one-line prompt into a generator. I gave deliberate, specific instructions about pose, anatomy, style, and tone. I gave feedback. I adjusted the inputs. I guided it through a process that produced something unique and original. The result is not a collage of stolen images. It is not a copy of anything that has ever existed. That is important context, and it is constantly ignored in these arguments.

There is a real difference between raising concerns in good faith and launching personal attacks at people who use a tool in a considered way. The people jumping into these threads with moral outrage are not engaging in objective analysis. They are repeating talking points as if AI art is some kind of singular personal enemy. It often feels like they are reacting based on something they heard someone else say, rather than thinking critically about what is in front of them.

And this is happening in a community that is supposed to be supportive of neurodivergent people. That is the part I find most maddening. There is room here for discussion and for disagreement. But instead of debate, we get judgment, condescension, rabid hostility, and attempts to shame people for trying something different. That is not the kind of environment anyone should want to foster.

  • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zipEnglish
    617·
    2 days ago

    sniff sniff

    Smells like hater. Come back with a valuable comment or proof of your reason for existence.

    If you can’t say anything nice, it’s okay. Don’t say anything at all.

    • shneancy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      85·
      2 days ago

      if you can’t say anything nice, it’s okay. Don’t say anything at all.

      i’d rather receive negative feedback and know what to improve than no feedback at all and be clueless as to why people don’t care about my works.

      using the plagiarism machines to generate things for you is widely frowned upon in every creative industry

      • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zipEnglish
        310·
        2 days ago

        Here’s some feedback on how to improve for ya, get better opinions and stop parroting the boring anti creative narrative lemmy users have.

        • shneancy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          82·
          2 days ago

          anti creative 💀 i don’t even know what to say to this… i hope you get better soon

            • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
              2·
              17 hours ago

              I don’t care whether they do, and I’m only not blocking them so I can show my support for your support. You’d think I personally melted an icecap and convinced an LLM to somehow kill this person’s puppy.

      • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        49·
        2 days ago

        The upvotes are a pretty clear indicator that most people enjoy it. As usual, it’s a few vocal ***** like you who think you’re right and want to impose your values on everybody else.

        • shneancy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          75·
          2 days ago

          i’m not imposing anything, i think AI are is shite on many levels and i’m vocal about it. die mad about it

          • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            44·
            2 days ago

            Funny, you seem to be the one who’s mad. I’m just bemused. Also a little annoyed on OP’s behalf that his first comic got derailed into this nonsense discussion.

            i’m not imposing anything

            Says the person with explicit instructions to others on how to approach their own creativity.

              • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                62·
                2 days ago

                Because I’m pointing out unpleasant facts? Imagine how OP feels. He made something, posted it for the first time, and the feedback he gets consists of ‘You’re a horrible person for not doing this the way I think you should’. You’re shitting on somebody’s first (and possibly only) attempt at doing something cool to push your irrelevant opinions.