Fun fact : it’s my first ever post on any lemmy instance/community 
…which is messed up…
Okay tbh I don’t know if I should have posted this some place else or if here is just fine 
So I’m brand new here, I’ve joined as lemm.ee was going to shut down. I only chose Hexbear because of how big and active it is, and of course for all its shade of leftism (being far left myself) but tbh that part was just a plus for me, what I wanted more was an opened enough instance, an inclusive one with enough peace of mind (not having to deal with unhinged/oppressing posts/comments daily).
But I started noticing that actually Hexbear had been defederated from some big instances like lemmy.world, upon trying to understand why I stumbled upon lemmy.world BS post explaining they did it for preemptive reasons (wtf 💀), obviously I just dismissed lemmy.world entirely and continued enjoying my time here. But then I noticed other instances like Blahaj blocked Hexbear as well and a bunch of others, I never found out why.
Then, while trying to understand what’s with all the defederating I stumbled upon a lot of negative noise against Hexbear, claiming you lot are doing some horrid stuff like war crimes denial, trolling, hate speech, spreading pro-Russian propaganda (like anti Ukrainian stuff don’t misinterpret me here, I’m fine with anti-western views or western propaganda skepticism), so much so I don’t really know if what I read was some kind of fascists trying to slander this place, or people confused about Hexbear political views, or if it’s linked to some Hexbear history I’m not aware of… It’s just weird because so far I haven’t encountered anything I could hold against this instance, for all I’ve seen you’re all sweet and making nice content, haven’t seen anything unhinged, but what makes me uneasy is this defederating thing, I can’t help but wonder why.
I’m really confused. Can someone explain to me what this is all about ? Is it just some right wing noise, some unknown drama or what ?
Edit (in case any of you see it): Thanks a lot everyone for all your answers, kind words, jokes, emojis and for being so welcoming. What you all said was very informative, and most of it I sadly expected. Having taken a liking to lemmy I knew that whatever I’d learn it’d be a cause for concern, it saddens me that several instances, big ones at that, would just make more room for the far right by suppressing leftists and spreading hate. As always in any such case I can’t say I’m surprised but it worries and disgust me nonetheless. Anyway I’m glad I found this place :)
Welcome
!I don’t have much to add that hasn’t already been mentioned, other than make sure to check the news mega if you’re a newshead/enjoyer. For whatever reason I avoided the megathreads for years but finally discovered how much I was missing out on.
Enjoy!
Thanks 😊
“Extravagance is a polarizing force, which invariably arouses either admiration or contempt.”
-some weird fiction author whose name I can’t remember, paraphrased
it’s common for haters to exist envious of those whose powers are beyond their grasp
That’s why .world is just a waiter at the table of our success.
free palestine, end the zionist entity and its apartheid and genocides
Wanting people to have housing, healthcare, and food is a pathway to many philosophies some consider to be… unnatural.
we have an ideology which is incompatible with and hostile to liberalism, and their socialization on the internet has left them unable to deal with that fact in a healthy way. they usually love dunking on ideological opponents, often by pretending to have conversations with news headlines in an aloof and dismissive tone. (you’ll notice Reddit has a surprisingly frequent number of front page stories where the headline simply a quote or declaration from an adversary like Putin, usually abridged or summarized in such a way to suggest weakness, hypocrisy, or frustration). unfortunately, they’re out of their depth when it comes beyond flat earthers, creationists, and anti-vax. On reddit, they manage to fill the gap with moderation power and downvotes. here, they just seethe. it’s hard to believe, but these people have such poor coping skills, I literally see them routinely invent quotes that don’t exist in the source or imagine historical events on the spot which they will then assert happened without investigation.
You got a ton of answers and they are all right lol. So I’ll just say welcome aboard, comrade!
We killed Henry Kissinger.
Liberals hate communists more than they hate fascists
Apparently they even hate dem socs now too.
Now?
They hate us because we have the most intelligent, powerful, and beautiful posters. Like you!
Welcome!!
They hate us cuz they ain’t us.
You got a lot of good answers so here’s a joke answer that nonetheless is true: we hold an uncomfortable mirror up for the liberals. They do not like what they see.
this is particularly visible in people like jon stewart, who holds himself up as the limit of how far left you can be and gets big mad when you pants him from the left.
Hexbear existed pre-federation as its own little isolated forum that developed a relatively-active userbase with relatively shared ideals. When federation came around, Hexbear was different enough that we couldn’t enable it right away and it took much effort from the dev team here to “unfork” us. When federation was finally enabled, our culture clashed with other instances in several major ways:
- emojis were bugged and were enormous when viewed on any other instance
- our high activity and commonality of opinion made other instances think we were constantly botting or “brigading” (its legacy has been preserved in emoji form:
), when in reality it was simply our users posting as they always have - we have a whitelist of instances, and the mod team demands compliance with certain standards. Of particular note due to the current internet culture, for an instance to remain federated with us, they must not be willing to tolerate transphobia by their own userbase. This is a bar that most instances fail to pass.
- we really hate Biden, Harris, and the democrats more broadly for various valid reasons (currently the hot button topic is them carrying out a genocide in occupied Palestine), and libs really hate to hear how the “good guys” are themselves monsters, or seeing “Death to America” regularly.
its own little isolated forum
Well, biggest Lemmy* instance at the time by a big amount.
Yeah, this matches my experience as a lemmy.ml onlooker. People in the federated instances were mostly used to more diplomatic answers from the .ml socialists, or at worst one of the three tactless accounts of the mostly-fine Lemmygrad crowd, then bam, suddenly they could barely make a liberal take without ten Hexbears telling them off, and inevitably a few just badposting or PPB like they would to a liberal tourist trying to set up camp on hexbear.net. These rudeposts were a small percent but the scale of Hexbear accounts and the sudden arrival made people notice, cry “Russian Bots”, all that stuff. To go from one or two accounts making political rants to an oversized PPB in reply to a “normal” post is a big jump for a community, Hexbear was considered a malicious troll instance by many. (citation: the site taglines)
emojis were bugged and were enormous when viewed on any other instance
this was hilarious though
The biggest poops on the biggest balls
57·21 hours agoYou can still do it. If you remove “emoji” from the title it becomes big again.
That’s an incredible amount of power to drop here
it’s so big lmao
For you
It doesn’t work on hexbear (at least yet, once we upgrade to the correct lemmy-ui version it should), but it does on other instances
Half of it is transphobia and queerphobia and half of it is liberals seething about us being further left than them
every single time I see one of their posts complaining about getting banned from here I check the modlog and it’s always something transphobic or racist
gotta love “allies” that save their homophobia/transphobia for people they disagree with.
Look at the the reaction people had when Caitlin Jenner turned up to have shitty opinions. Immediately everyone started misgendering her, mocking her transition, claiming she wasn’t actually Trans…
I see you’ve met my mother.
The ocean of “lol trump and Putin are gay with each other” every time any RussiaGate news came out
I fucking hate that so hard. If you think they’re petty weak men then just say that, draw your propaganda or whatever. If you draw them in drag you’re showing what you really think about gay men.
But nah, when you’re le epic owning your political oponents it’s fine to use homophobia :| I sure do feel included by the liberal establishment. Defs not just feeling like a tolerated pet freak.
It’s like that Karen stuff just being mask off misogyny but it’s ok because sometimes a woman is completely horrible and now we can all vent about how much we really hate women who dare to be loud and abrasive.
Homophobia, fatphobia, penis size shaming, ageism, ableism…
Just a list of the things I’ve seen liberals employ when talking about Trump this week alone.
sigh
Yeah…she laughs her ass off at those, too.
You got a bunch of answers, so I’mma just say hi.
Always happy to see new users, and I love my leftist comrades
. There is technically a /c/howdy comm if you wanted a more chatty intro.
