Most of what I’ve read about Abundance is a general distrust for their arguments.
Alex Bronzini-Vender says abundance didn't work in practice in Colorado.
The abundance agenda’s fundamental sleight of hand is that, by unleashing the private sector from burdensome consumer protection, labor standards, and zoning regulations, American consumers might recover their lost purchasing power and living standards without the state directly tampering with workplace standards or wage levels. The private sector would supply more goods at lower costs—if only it could. That hasn’t panned out in Colorado, and it’s unlikely to elsewhere. (thebaffler.com)
David Sirota says the project is a scam because all it does is deregulate corporations without addressing medical care or the social safety net.
David Sirota, the founder of Lever News and a former Bernie Sanders speechwriter, summed up one stinging progressive critique of the whole project: “Abundance™ being defined as ‘kill zoning laws and corporate regulation’ but not ‘give everyone decent medical care’ — that’s the tell, and you’re the mark.” It’s true that this is not a focus among the advocates of abundance. Relaxing zoning laws won’t do anything to bring us universal health care or bolster the social safety net. It may not even, in the short term, do enough to create affordable housing. (nymag.com
He also argues that they ignore the real obstacles to efficiency and abundance: corporate corruption driving artificial scarcity.
[T]he takeaway from the broadband tale is that the biggest obstacles to efficiency and abundance are often corporate power and its corrupting influence on our politics — factors typically downplayed or unmentioned in the Abundance Discourse.
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We could pass all the federal permitting reforms Klein and Thompson could dream of, but if powerful fossil-fuel interests continue to call the political shots, we’ll never achieve the clean energy build-out we desperately need.
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In many of those areas, there’s no actual scarcity of structures that could be living space. It’s just that corporations and oligarchs hoarding wealth and land aren’t being compelled by zoning and tax laws to open up the space for housing.
As someone who’s actually read the book, have these criticisms been handled and no one noticed, or would they need to publish a revised edition?
Ok, so I have no shortages of critiscism when it comes to the book. I do agree that they seem to have a foolishly optimistic assumption that the only (or I guess just the principal) hurdle in the way of housing development is regulation. I’m certain corporate greed does play a MAJOR role in this. However, going over what you’ve linked here, I have a couple issues. Most notably, the second point there. It really seems odd to essentially say that we shouldn’t be considering housing reform because we need healthcare reform. Two issues can and do exist, and both issues need to be addressed. The authors focus on one of them. That doesn’t mean they don’t care about the other. As for Kline and Thompson’s call for deregulation, it’s something that rubs me the wrong way initially, but they do a pretty good job demonstrating the way that regulation can be used to slow and even fully prevent development, and how it leads to developers only building luxury housing because the costs to develop are too high. And while this make me think somethng like, “boohoo the rich guy will need to wait a little longer to get a return” we can’t ignore that under our current system, profits are the prime motivator. I’m on my phone right now, so I feel I can’t really dive too deep into your question, but my main point would be that I do agree with some of the critisicm and I don’t think they fully address some pretty big concerns the reader may have with what they’re saying.
I did keep notes on quotes that I felt were important in the book, and then went through and wrote out why I felt they were. A lot of them touch on these topics. If you’re interested, I can share it. Though please keep in mind, I haven’t refined my notes as I wasn’t really expecting to share them.
Most of what I’ve read about Abundance is a general distrust for their arguments.
Alex Bronzini-Vender says abundance didn't work in practice in Colorado.
David Sirota says the project is a scam because all it does is deregulate corporations without addressing medical care or the social safety net.
He also argues that they ignore the real obstacles to efficiency and abundance: corporate corruption driving artificial scarcity.
As someone who’s actually read the book, have these criticisms been handled and no one noticed, or would they need to publish a revised edition?
Ok, so I have no shortages of critiscism when it comes to the book. I do agree that they seem to have a foolishly optimistic assumption that the only (or I guess just the principal) hurdle in the way of housing development is regulation. I’m certain corporate greed does play a MAJOR role in this. However, going over what you’ve linked here, I have a couple issues. Most notably, the second point there. It really seems odd to essentially say that we shouldn’t be considering housing reform because we need healthcare reform. Two issues can and do exist, and both issues need to be addressed. The authors focus on one of them. That doesn’t mean they don’t care about the other. As for Kline and Thompson’s call for deregulation, it’s something that rubs me the wrong way initially, but they do a pretty good job demonstrating the way that regulation can be used to slow and even fully prevent development, and how it leads to developers only building luxury housing because the costs to develop are too high. And while this make me think somethng like, “boohoo the rich guy will need to wait a little longer to get a return” we can’t ignore that under our current system, profits are the prime motivator. I’m on my phone right now, so I feel I can’t really dive too deep into your question, but my main point would be that I do agree with some of the critisicm and I don’t think they fully address some pretty big concerns the reader may have with what they’re saying.
I did keep notes on quotes that I felt were important in the book, and then went through and wrote out why I felt they were. A lot of them touch on these topics. If you’re interested, I can share it. Though please keep in mind, I haven’t refined my notes as I wasn’t really expecting to share them.