Edit: I’ll elaborate. The primary health benefit of chocolate is the high antioxidant levels. So if a chocolate producer wants their product to lean on the health-promoting side, the last thing they want to do is include an ingredient that eliminates the primary benefit that a thing is known for. Dairy literally acts as an antinutrient in this sense, blocking the absorption of antioxidants in chocolate. It’s been shown to do this to coffee, tea, and berries as well.
Soy milk would be a relatively better choice, but then again, like dairy, soy is one of the most common allergens. So I would argue oat milk would be the best choice for “milk” chocolate.
I suppose that is true, but there’s already plenty of health based chocolate companies. This chocolate is just supposed to be candy, which means they want it to not be bitter. Incidentally, I know someone who is allergic to oat milk, someone’s always going to be allergic to something.
I dunno, I’ve yet to see a chocolate bar product that actually gets everything right. I think that it’s entirely possible to make a chocolate bar that is not only every bit as much candy as any other, but is completely health-promoting as well. The bar here is really just the status quo.
I’ve never seen a chocolate bar that can truly be called healthy. See this comment for details on why. While it is possible to make a healthy chocolate-flavored treat, It’s not possible to make a healthy true chocolate bar.
I’m not sure if that would be possible. Chocolate takes a lot of sugar to become sweet, which doesn’t exactly promote health. I’m sure they went with the status quo because it’s popular, and they want to appeal to the widest customer base anyways.
I think you’re right, it’s not possible without modifying the product so much that it can no longer be considered a true chocolate bar. I was going to post another comment in this thread about how I would make a chocolate bar. The sugar isn’t even the hard part - the thing that makes sugar harmful is when it’s 1) refined away from a whole-food source, 2) consumed in excess, and 3) part of a diet that is high in both sugar and fat, and low in other nutrients like fiber and phytonutrients. The first issue can be solved by using date sugar as the sweetener, which is just whole pulverized dates. Molasses (in small amounts) could also play a role.
The bigger problem is the cocoa butter itself. That stuff is really high in saturated fats, and chocolate cannot be considered chocolate without it’s inclusion. If I were to prioritize health over adhering to a standard, I would use either some kind of nut butter as a replacement (ideally one high in omega 3, like walnut butter), or a healthier oil like canola oil. Hmm, maybe avocado could be a good choice.
At this point I think it starts to run into stability issues, so an emulsifier of some sort would be desirable. I wouldn’t want to use industrial products like lecithins, so maybe something like chickpea flower. But then at this point we’re gone so far from chocolate bar that we’re probably talking about something that would be closer to a brownie texture.
Another thing I found in looking into this is that there are two main forms of cocoa powder/solids. The one used in chocolate bars uses a so-called “Dutch process” which leads to a product that is lower in flavanoid/polyphenol content. The other kind of cocoa, usually sold as “natural cocoa powder” has higher acidity, so a more sour taste. It requires either more sugar to taste good, is generally preferred more in baked goods, or in some cases will include an alkaline ingredient to neutralize the acidity.
So in pursuing health I end up removing literally every ingredient that makes a chocolate bar what it is. I guess I’m just finding out that I don’t like chocolate bars after all. XD
It’d be interesting to experiment with these lines of thought and see what comes out…
That certainly would be an interesting experiment. Date sugar sounds like it would be better in baked goods though, since it seems like it wouldn’t melt or dissolve like sugar crystals.
Date sugar kind of dissolves, but it’s also high fiber, so it has a thickening effect. Unfortunately when it comes to sweeteners, the only ways to really keep them healthy is to make sure they’re combined with a source of fiber and antioxidants, to blunt blood sugar spikes and prevent inflammation. Natural low calorie sweeteners like Stevia might be an option, but it’s not clear what their health impacts may or may not be either.
Milk chocolate is ruined chocolate.
Edit: I’ll elaborate. The primary health benefit of chocolate is the high antioxidant levels. So if a chocolate producer wants their product to lean on the health-promoting side, the last thing they want to do is include an ingredient that eliminates the primary benefit that a thing is known for. Dairy literally acts as an antinutrient in this sense, blocking the absorption of antioxidants in chocolate. It’s been shown to do this to coffee, tea, and berries as well.
Soy milk would be a relatively better choice, but then again, like dairy, soy is one of the most common allergens. So I would argue oat milk would be the best choice for “milk” chocolate.
I’ve got all the people in the world who eat chocolate for its health benefits in the room with me right now, and they said, “”.
What a stupid opinion to get blocked over
What an accurate username
I suppose that is true, but there’s already plenty of health based chocolate companies. This chocolate is just supposed to be candy, which means they want it to not be bitter. Incidentally, I know someone who is allergic to oat milk, someone’s always going to be allergic to something.
I dunno, I’ve yet to see a chocolate bar product that actually gets everything right. I think that it’s entirely possible to make a chocolate bar that is not only every bit as much candy as any other, but is completely health-promoting as well. The bar here is really just the status quo.
You’ve never had good chocolate? I don’t understand.
I’ve never seen a chocolate bar that can truly be called healthy. See this comment for details on why. While it is possible to make a healthy chocolate-flavored treat, It’s not possible to make a healthy true chocolate bar.
I’m not sure if that would be possible. Chocolate takes a lot of sugar to become sweet, which doesn’t exactly promote health. I’m sure they went with the status quo because it’s popular, and they want to appeal to the widest customer base anyways.
I think you’re right, it’s not possible without modifying the product so much that it can no longer be considered a true chocolate bar. I was going to post another comment in this thread about how I would make a chocolate bar. The sugar isn’t even the hard part - the thing that makes sugar harmful is when it’s 1) refined away from a whole-food source, 2) consumed in excess, and 3) part of a diet that is high in both sugar and fat, and low in other nutrients like fiber and phytonutrients. The first issue can be solved by using date sugar as the sweetener, which is just whole pulverized dates. Molasses (in small amounts) could also play a role.
The bigger problem is the cocoa butter itself. That stuff is really high in saturated fats, and chocolate cannot be considered chocolate without it’s inclusion. If I were to prioritize health over adhering to a standard, I would use either some kind of nut butter as a replacement (ideally one high in omega 3, like walnut butter), or a healthier oil like canola oil. Hmm, maybe avocado could be a good choice.
At this point I think it starts to run into stability issues, so an emulsifier of some sort would be desirable. I wouldn’t want to use industrial products like lecithins, so maybe something like chickpea flower. But then at this point we’re gone so far from chocolate bar that we’re probably talking about something that would be closer to a brownie texture.
Another thing I found in looking into this is that there are two main forms of cocoa powder/solids. The one used in chocolate bars uses a so-called “Dutch process” which leads to a product that is lower in flavanoid/polyphenol content. The other kind of cocoa, usually sold as “natural cocoa powder” has higher acidity, so a more sour taste. It requires either more sugar to taste good, is generally preferred more in baked goods, or in some cases will include an alkaline ingredient to neutralize the acidity.
So in pursuing health I end up removing literally every ingredient that makes a chocolate bar what it is. I guess I’m just finding out that I don’t like chocolate bars after all. XD
It’d be interesting to experiment with these lines of thought and see what comes out…
That certainly would be an interesting experiment. Date sugar sounds like it would be better in baked goods though, since it seems like it wouldn’t melt or dissolve like sugar crystals.
Date sugar kind of dissolves, but it’s also high fiber, so it has a thickening effect. Unfortunately when it comes to sweeteners, the only ways to really keep them healthy is to make sure they’re combined with a source of fiber and antioxidants, to blunt blood sugar spikes and prevent inflammation. Natural low calorie sweeteners like Stevia might be an option, but it’s not clear what their health impacts may or may not be either.