A new research found that motorists and dangerous street design — not cyclist behavior — are the primary factors that put cyclists at risk. According to the study done by University of South Florida, cyclists were in compliance with traffic laws 88 percent of the time during the day and 87 percent of the time […]
I admit not obeying traffic rules all the time when cycling. When I break rules I do so when it is safe. Often there is a choice between the rules and safety. Some bike lanes are unsafe and need to be avoided. Sometimes I break rules in the interest of conserving momentum, because building speed takes effort. I only do so when it is safe. As a cyclist I have a good view of traffic around me and I can often get off the road if necessary, which cars can’t.
I’m not going to go through the red light when there are cars passing through… That would be stupid.
I was designated driver last night. Zero alcohol. I brought 6 friends to a concert in van.
Driving home, I felt like I was the drunk. I was swerving out of the way of cyclists a d nearly killed a dude at a green light who decided to ride his e-bike through the crosswalk right in front of me.
While I agree with this sentiment and the spirit of the article, two wrongs don’t make a right.
It’s like that in my city too when people decide to drive on the streets designated as greenways. You want bikers out of your way? Give them another place to go and they’ll gladly use it to get away from you. It sounds like you’re describing a place where there is only car infrastructure so bikers are forced into traffic situations built for cars. That means every one of them interprets what they are supposed to be doing (either for safety or to follow the law) differently.
Think about it this way. Someone parked in the bike lane? I’m swerving into traffic. Person doesn’t see me and starts merging at me? I’m swerving into another lane. Someone intentionally decides to ride my ass? I’m getting out of their way before they get violent, possibly putting me in front of you.
Tired of bikers in your ‘car lanes’? Give them their own lane. A person in a car does not have any more value or rights than a person on a bike. And their infrastructure costs tons more.
It’s Seattle. There are Greenways everywhere. These were drunks on bikes.
Amazing how I’m getting down voted for being a DD, for consolidating 6 people into my vehicle, and for making an observation that two wrongs don’t make a right.
I was at a fucking stop light. Jesus. I wasn’t moving. They whipped out in front of me, splitting lanes and then crossed over in front of me on the crosswalk.
Can’t you admit that sometimes, a cyclist can do the wrong thing?
No matter how badly a cyclist fucks up, you took responsibility when you got behind the wheel of a car. You chose fast individual climate controlled transport at the expense of the cimate and the immediate safety of everyone around you.
Anything that happens from that point on, even if someone else could have avoided it, is your fault for making this greedy selfish fucked up choice. Nothing they do, up to and including suicide attempts, absolves you of blame.
Do not blame your victim for dressing slutty or failing to say “no” loudly enough.
Breaking rules with a deadly metal machine vs. breaking rules with a few kilograms machine.
The outcome is sort of the same if those kilograms break rules in front of a 2 ton brick obeying laws.
I admit not obeying traffic rules all the time when cycling. When I break rules I do so when it is safe. Often there is a choice between the rules and safety. Some bike lanes are unsafe and need to be avoided. Sometimes I break rules in the interest of conserving momentum, because building speed takes effort. I only do so when it is safe. As a cyclist I have a good view of traffic around me and I can often get off the road if necessary, which cars can’t.
I’m not going to go through the red light when there are cars passing through… That would be stupid.
I was designated driver last night. Zero alcohol. I brought 6 friends to a concert in van.
Driving home, I felt like I was the drunk. I was swerving out of the way of cyclists a d nearly killed a dude at a green light who decided to ride his e-bike through the crosswalk right in front of me.
While I agree with this sentiment and the spirit of the article, two wrongs don’t make a right.
It’s like that in my city too when people decide to drive on the streets designated as greenways. You want bikers out of your way? Give them another place to go and they’ll gladly use it to get away from you. It sounds like you’re describing a place where there is only car infrastructure so bikers are forced into traffic situations built for cars. That means every one of them interprets what they are supposed to be doing (either for safety or to follow the law) differently.
Think about it this way. Someone parked in the bike lane? I’m swerving into traffic. Person doesn’t see me and starts merging at me? I’m swerving into another lane. Someone intentionally decides to ride my ass? I’m getting out of their way before they get violent, possibly putting me in front of you.
Tired of bikers in your ‘car lanes’? Give them their own lane. A person in a car does not have any more value or rights than a person on a bike. And their infrastructure costs tons more.
It’s Seattle. There are Greenways everywhere. These were drunks on bikes.
Amazing how I’m getting down voted for being a DD, for consolidating 6 people into my vehicle, and for making an observation that two wrongs don’t make a right.
Also, for agreeing with the original premise.
People are upset cause you’re 'both sides’ing it whether you mean to or not.
Two things can be true at the same time.
meanwhile, there’s this Karen: https://alexandrite.app/lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/20049125
Then go fucking slower so you don’t risk killing people. It’s not hard.
You understand that gottagofast is no less murderous intent than celebratory gunfire?
I was at a fucking stop light. Jesus. I wasn’t moving. They whipped out in front of me, splitting lanes and then crossed over in front of me on the crosswalk.
Can’t you admit that sometimes, a cyclist can do the wrong thing?
No matter how badly a cyclist fucks up, you took responsibility when you got behind the wheel of a car. You chose fast individual climate controlled transport at the expense of the cimate and the immediate safety of everyone around you.
Anything that happens from that point on, even if someone else could have avoided it, is your fault for making this greedy selfish fucked up choice. Nothing they do, up to and including suicide attempts, absolves you of blame.
Do not blame your victim for dressing slutty or failing to say “no” loudly enough.
Wow.
Found the Karen