Vietnam is taking bold steps to clean up its streets – and quiet them down. Starting next summer, the major...
  • PeacefulForest@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 days ago

    From all of the comments I’m reading, it would make the most sense to ban gasoline cars first, then ban the motorcycle. Allows time for a better clean motorcycle to be made, maybe drives some incentive for those there in Vietnam to try their hand at making them.

    All in all, it seems like a nice way to stop polluting the air. As another commenter said, if it is to make room for more cars, fuck them.

  • oeuf@slrpnk.netEnglish
    4·
    2 days ago

    Wow. I haven’t been in Vietnam for a while but there were a lot of motorbikes

  • NarrativeBear@lemmy.worldEnglish
    144·
    3 days ago

    I’m not a local, but the cynic in me feels this is a war on motorcycles and not cars.

    Clear the streets of motorcycles to allow room for more cars.

    • vivalapivo@lemmy.todayEnglish
      151·
      3 days ago

      This is the creation of a void to allow Chinese electric bikes into the country.

      I, as a motorcyclist, want a e-bike, but they are trash as of now, unless you are willing to spend over $10k

      • cyborganism@piefed.caEnglish
        82·
        3 days ago

        The air is still going to be much easier to breathe after people switch to ebikes. The smell of the scooters and motorcycles is pretty intense.

        • NotJohnSmith@feddit.ukEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          I know China is predominantly e-mopeds now I’d be surprised if Vietnam isn’t transitioning quickly also.

          I’ve had mine for 3yrs now in the UK and love it. Easily carry in both batteries to charge so no concern about not owning a drive, my electricity prices are variable so worst case I’m looking at equiv of about 400mpg but typically charge it overnight at about 2000mpg

        • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
          7·
          3 days ago

          I think they’re talking about e-motos. I wish the term e-bike would be restricted to bicycles but people seem to want to muddy the waters.

          • NotJohnSmith@feddit.ukEnglish
            6·
            3 days ago

            I have an e-moto, but then it’s vespa shaped so I don’t want to sound thirsty calling it an e-moto.

            But then, I can’t call it an e-scooter as that’s one those stand up things. So I opt for e-moped, even though technically a moped is something different in our country everything shaped like a vespa is a moped

        • vivalapivo@lemmy.todayEnglish
          4·
          3 days ago

          Price. A new one like can-am origin is good, but it costs $15k. You get 150 km range and a decent power. Now when you have like $5k you would just search for the older one as the price drops significantly. The problem is that there were no can-am origin 8-10 years.

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
            1·
            3 days ago

            How much is a normal moto? Is it cheaper?

            5k seems extremely cheap to me but I guess I’m used to car prices which aren’t comparable.

            • pc486@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              3 days ago

              A new gas motorbike in Vietnam is less than 1,000 USD. Used ones go for a few hundred USD. Or at least it was when I was visiting Vietnam last year.

              • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
                1·
                3 days ago

                I think we were discussing western prices. Need to compare like to like.

                Though, if anyone has experience with electric moto prices in Vietnam, that would be even more relevant.

      • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        21·
        3 days ago

        I’ve not seen an electric motorcycle that’s even slightly designed to do what I would want it to do.

        They’re either “ebikes” which are sold like bicycles, they’re about as capable as a moped aka inappropriate for footpath and highway use.

        Then you go all the way up to $20,000 electric superbikes that accelerate like a rifle bullet up to their maximum speed of 80 miles per hour, which it can sustain for about 40 minutes.

        I haven’t seen any evidence that anyone has attempted to make a bike that could do what my Ninja 250 could: Go 70 miles per hour for 300 miles before refueling. Oh, and for a purchase price of $4,000.