I’m seeing that the Gulags had about 18 million people passed thru them from the 1920s to the mid 1950s, with about 1.5-1.7m died in detention. Population of Sov.Union 1920 - 136.8m, and 1950 178.5m. About 10% died in the gulags per these figures.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Gulag
Cool, you have access to the same numbers. How would you make a comparison that makes sense of this oft repeated ‘apples to organges’ meme?
Would you be more comfortable if we compared 1920-1950 for gulags, and US prisons? Or how about just a point in time for the USA and world prisons. OH wait, I already provided you with that with the second reference. What would make y’all happy?
No, not at all. I’m trying to make sense of your shitty “gotcha” point, made with an oft repeated meme with no associated references. But hey, you were ‘this close’. Keep trying.
How many died outside gulags in this timespan, though? The Soviet Union lost 25 million people altogether during WW2, many millions of those from hunger and disease due to horrifying conditions all over the country after the 1941 Nazi invasion. 25 million over 150mn is around 17%. Gulags themselves weren’t particularly deadly, it’s the whole Nazi invasion that triggered mass death
Ya got any sources on those figures?
I’m seeing that the Gulags had about 18 million people passed thru them from the 1920s to the mid 1950s, with about 1.5-1.7m died in detention. Population of Sov.Union 1920 - 136.8m, and 1950 178.5m. About 10% died in the gulags per these figures. https://www.britannica.com/place/Gulag
Currently approx. 11.5m are imprisoned world wide. And the USA has about 1,808,100 incarcerated. Thus approximately 15.7% of all incarcerated are in the USA.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/incarceration-rates-by-country
You’re comparing a span of ~30 years to a point-in-time number?
Yeah that’s just bad math
Cool, you have access to the same numbers. How would you make a comparison that makes sense of this oft repeated ‘apples to organges’ meme?
Would you be more comfortable if we compared 1920-1950 for gulags, and US prisons? Or how about just a point in time for the USA and world prisons. OH wait, I already provided you with that with the second reference. What would make y’all happy?
You’re asking someone to prove your shitty point for you? Bold.
No, not at all. I’m trying to make sense of your shitty “gotcha” point, made with an oft repeated meme with no associated references. But hey, you were ‘this close’. Keep trying.
Damn, you’re not even good at being condescending 🤣
lol, no better than you at elaborating, or explaining. Are you by any chance related to Mary Poppins?
Lol get fucked kulak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
It seems it peaked at around 25% in 2009, but has been declining since.
How many died outside gulags in this timespan, though? The Soviet Union lost 25 million people altogether during WW2, many millions of those from hunger and disease due to horrifying conditions all over the country after the 1941 Nazi invasion. 25 million over 150mn is around 17%. Gulags themselves weren’t particularly deadly, it’s the whole Nazi invasion that triggered mass death
Looks like it was accurate at its peak in 2008