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This is based on tickets so I’m assuming the NYC swimming crowd isn’t on here since they actively run away from the police on the highway lol.
Although if anyone is, that would be pretty massively embarrassing that they are basically just pay to win speeding.
Two of those are massive trucks. I’m guessing to get on this list, you have to be constantly speeding when driving. Gross.
3 of them, two Dodge Rams and a Silverado. It’s so telling to me that all the cars listed are either luxury vehicles or pickup trucks except for the passport at #10 (I don’t know what that is so maybe it’s a truck too)
Ah, yes, the famously luxurious Chevy Malibu.
Ok, I missed the Malibu. Still the list is mostly luxury or trucks.
Mercedes A class is not luxury
How do you not have a points system or something to penalise repeat offenders?
New York does have a point system. If you get 11 points within 18 months, you will get an automatic driving ban. Speed violations are worth a minimum of 3 points.
https://dmv.ny.gov/points-and-penalties/the-new-york-state-driver-point-system
But in order to be assessed points, you have to be caught. And many times, prolific traffic lawbreakers do things like cover up their car’s registration plates to avoid being ticketed by automatic speed cameras.
That is interesting and shows they need to go further based on this so hopefully highlighting this issue will lead there. Any car without a clear licence plate should be immediately pulled over by police and fined on the spot plus checked for insurance, licence, etc. If they don’t have insurance here in the UK, the car is impounded until someone with a driving licence and appropriate insurance collects it. If you don’t have a driving licence, im not too clear if they impound it or just leave the car there and arrest the driver. Either way, they’re not able to drive off.
Any vehicle owner should either identify the driver at the time or take the points by default. Cameras should be changed to ones that take pictures of the drivers from the front. The technology exists!
If a car isn’t taxed, the police can fine or more usually, the driving authority roams around randomly and if the car is on any public road, puts a boot on the car and a massive yellow sticker on the windscreen. It doesn’t happen often but enough to make people pay taxes or get called out to your neighbours. Eventually those cars are impounded too.
The flip side to all this though is the need for infrastructure to actually slow cars down instead of just a speed limit. Only a combination of a lot of things will do anything
That’s the same as in New York. If you are caught by police driving a car without proper insurance, registration, or without a valid driving licence, the police can have the car towed and impounded, although, for minor issues, such as expired registration or insurance documents, they usually will just give the driver a warning to remedy the problem. However, if the driver has already received warnings for the same problem in the past, then the police will usually not extend any more leniency.
Driving with illegal modifications such as missing registration plates, purposefully obscured plates, or suspended driving licence, is almost always an arrest and impoundment.
That is the same then but how do you get this number of infractions? I don’t understand. Maybe I should be asking whether we get the same issues here then if they’re falling through some gaps
These people are not getting caught. New Yorkers have very elaborate ways to avoid tolls and speed cameras. One popular trick is to have a lever which engages a shutter that covers their registration plate, which they engage only as they approach a speed camera or toll gantry. As soon as they are out of sight of the camera, they roll the shutter back up.
This modification, of course, is highly illegal but it’s very difficult for the police to catch unless they stake out the camera and wait for someone to do this in front of them. Police do occasionally do that, but it’s obviously not a great use of police resources to sit there and simply hope that someone is stupid enough to do this in the sight of a police car.
Edit: You can watch this video for further info: https://youtu.be/WcliB8uBs5w
Wow, that is insane! Do you have any annual car checks like an MOT?
Holy mother of Christ, how tf is this even possible:
New York State plate #LCM8254
Vehicle: Black 2023 Audi A6
School Zone Speeding Tickets Received in 2024: 563
School Zone Speeding Tickets Received in 2025 To Date: 177
Total Fines Paid / Owed: $46,636.60 / $11,205.63
Borough Where Most Often Speeding: 100% Brooklyn (563 violations)
Intersection Where Most Often Speeding: Ocean Pkwy and Ocean Court (70 violations)
Also, they mention having a limiter to prevent speeds exceeding 5mph over…I have my adaptive cruise set that way, I’d love to have that as a general option also. I haven’t gotten any tickets but I have caught myself going a bit fast at times, having an automatic limiter would be convenient.
How do you get this many tickets and not be arrested?
The fact they can afford 46k in tickets tells you exactly why.
My vehicle has an option in it’s cruise control settings to automatically adapt to speed limit changes
I have mine set to do that also. I really like it. I have to take several eight hour drives a year and it’s surprising how much less exhausting it is when I get back home after having a car with those adaptive cruise and lane assist features.
Mine is a Ford, I have it turned off because I’d probably get rear-ended if I actually adapted to the speed limit changes here (401 corridor, Ontario). But, watching the speed limit indicator in the cluster, it’s quite accurate as long as speed limit signs arent obstructed.
I do use the adaptive cruise with lane keeping and follow distance enabled on the highway, it’s super convenient in heavy traffic.
Why aren’t the human drivers banned from driving, and publicly named and shamed?
Because this data was collected from traffic cameras, which slightly limits the actions that can be taken (notably, because they can’t prove who was behind the wheel there are no points on the license). IMO what you should be asking is why has the NPD not stationed a traffic cop around each of these places specifically to catch these guys.
Huh… In the UK they just charge you for failing to identify the driver instead.
This is doxing and isn’t ok even if you don’t like what they are doing.
If you are basically trying to kill people on the road, you should not enjoy privacy.
Give up your driving licence mate
I’m really curious, because people throw “doxxing” around a lot. And this example doesn’t even include any identifiable info, just the make/model/year/color of a car.
So… What is your definition of doxxing?
Speeding isn’t a constitutional right like protest. And public streets aren’t private homes. Should people expect to break laws and endanger their neighbors, in public, and we’re all supposed to… pretend we don’t see them? What’s your definition here?
And this example doesn’t even include any identifiable info, just the make/model/year/color of a car.
Make/model/year/color/frequent locations of a car are absolutely enough identifiable info to stalk someone.
Should people expect to break laws and endanger their neighbors, in public, and we’re all supposed to… pretend we don’t see them? What’s your definition here?
And what’s your suggestion? What do you think people should/could/might do with enough information to stalk someone that someone online said is breaking the law with no more evidence than “I said so”?
So… What *is* your definition of doxxing?
Giving everyone online enough information to stalk and harass someone, especially when it comes along with a motive to do so.
no more evidence than “I said so.”
Incorrect. There is plenty of evidence, and the group behind this (Transportation Alternatives) is reputable and well-known. Here is the evidence, which is also linked in the OP.
What do you think people should/could/might do with enough information
Law enforcement should act, and if they don’t, we should put pressure on law enforcement using the democratic tools at our disposal. Dangerously speeding cars are not the rising sun; we don’t just have to accept them as a fact of life.
Giving everyone online enough information to stalk and harass someone
If a student shoots up a school and then tries to hide with the other kids, and the kids point him out to the police, are they doxxing the shooter? Is this crowd doxxing a shooter? Why do speeders have an unfettered right to menace the public, but the public can’t hold them accountable? We wouldn’t tolerate that with any other crime committed in public. And driving is a privilege, not a right
If a student shoots up a school and then tries to hide with the other kids, and the kids point him out to the police, are they doxxing the shooter?
No.
Law enforcement should act, and if they don’t, we should put pressure on law enforcement using the democratic tools at our disposal.
Absolutely!
Doxxing is sharing information that can facilitate vigilante justice.
Based on that article, I’m confused because I thought getting too many speeding tickets in a short time would lead to bigger consequences up to losing your license. I don’t understand how someone could get hundreds of tickets in a year. Does New York just have very lax speeding ticket laws compared to other states?
Also the full article includes even more identifiable information, such as the actual license plates.
I think we’re in agreement that the police/legal system should be clamping down on these speeders. I certainly share your confusion here re: why they’re allowed to continue doing this.
But, as we’re both seeing, the police aren’t doing their jobs, and these guys are allowed to continue menacing our streets. This happens against a general backdrop where drivers are regularly prioritized over everyone else-- to the point that that can literally kill someone and still walk. In that environment, what are we supposed to do? I think this method – highlighting that we’re watching, that the police could stop this today by simply doing their jobs-- is one of the democratic tools at our disposal.
at what point does doxing (assuming we agree that’s what this is) go from definitely not okay to maybe okay
Probably when it becomes about protecting the public, and the shaming is to prevent harm to others. Is it okay to dox the rapist Brock Allen Turner (and sex offender registries in general)? How about doxing brownshirts in Nazi Germany (and those they’ve inspired)?
I think this would fall under a public safety situation, and at least some of the pushback to this is rooted in how normalized traffic violence is in the US. There was a woman killed by a driver in a hit and run in my city last week, driving should be treated much more as a privilege than a right in urban areas where there are other options. I don’t love the privacy issues potentially enabling this doxing though.
When you are performing a licensed activity, you do not have a right to privacy. Your legal identity must necessarily be associated with the licensed actions you take.
