Heat damage means no trams will run in Leipzig until early Monday morning as temperatures soar across Germany, breaking new records. Leipzig Transport Authority (LVB) has suspended tram services until...
with the destruction/dismantling of key industrial capacity and the resulting push of employment and production toward farming and rural labor, landholding and rural authority would have quickly became more important than urban/industrial bourgeois power, recreating over time feudal relations of production and obligation.
your point about the Polish border, meanwhile, reads honestly like nothing but a load of german chauvinist rubbish. the recovered territories were exactly that: recovered, as they had formed part of the traditional Polish homeland and medieval Polish state, and were only lost later during different periods over the centuries. Germany had never had any right to hold them! What effectively happened after the war was that Poland abjured any claims on the territories it itself had unjustly acquired in the Soviet-Polish war, while finally regaining what had been stolen from it centuries earlier. thus, both wrongs had been righted at the same time.
furthermore, as i’ve stated previously, all “german” territory west of the elbe/Labe/Łobjo was ancestrally Slavic land that the germans had occupied and subjected to forced germanisation. if anything, germany’s post-war eastern borders were too lenient and, in my opinion, should not have included Lusatia, etc.
you bringing up germany getting split up into several pieces is just ridiculous! as stated in the beginning, morgenthau explicitly called for the establishment of a US high commissioner as the main political control body over the entire area! do you seriously believe that the fucking americans would have used their even greater control over central and western europe to carry out honest denazification?? hell, even if they’d for some reasen ended up doing it, american power is never a good thing for socialism or anti-imperialism anywhere! how do i get this into peoples’ heads, ffs?!
also, it’s somewhat funny how you decided to completely ignore my point about national minorities. ironically, you and the germans seem to be in the same boat on this one, lmao
finally, ill ask you again to please educate yourself on the soviet government’s approach to the german question, as those people (unlike yanks like mogenthau) actually experienced the horrors of fascist occupation, as well as it just being better to read communists instead of some dipshit in washington.
look, i’m not obliged to respond to every point you make, i’ve got better things to do than wrestle in the mud with someone trying to wring arguments out of well meaning comrades making jokes.
i didn’t reply to your argument about national minorities because it was completely unformed. how would it be worse for them, when there’s no provisions about them in the plan we’re talking about? was i supposed to guess? this isn’t an effective, or kind way to communicate.
not interested in any grains i’d reap from carrying on with this.
with the destruction/dismantling of key industrial capacity and the resulting push of employment and production toward farming and rural labor, landholding and rural authority would have quickly became more important than urban/industrial bourgeois power, recreating over time feudal relations of production and obligation.
I don’t find it reasonable that feudal relations would’ve been restored in the 1940s-1950s when capitalism has been well-established for centuries with imperialism as the current stage. Honestly, I can’t even think of a country where feudal restoration is a thing outside of maybe going from Cromwell’s Protectorate back to the UK or the Dutch Republic being replaced with the Kingdom of the Netherlands. And even those two are more about the capitalists of those countries taking a few steps back in the political arena while the mode of production they represent still marched onward to replace the feudal mode of production. The UK and the Netherlands are still kingdoms, yet no one seriously thinks they’re feudal societies, and they haven’t been feudal societies for centuries.
For the rest of your post, I broadly agree/have no comment.
with the destruction/dismantling of key industrial capacity and the resulting push of employment and production toward farming and rural labor, landholding and rural authority would have quickly became more important than urban/industrial bourgeois power, recreating over time feudal relations of production and obligation.
your point about the Polish border, meanwhile, reads honestly like nothing but a load of german chauvinist rubbish. the recovered territories were exactly that: recovered, as they had formed part of the traditional Polish homeland and medieval Polish state, and were only lost later during different periods over the centuries. Germany had never had any right to hold them! What effectively happened after the war was that Poland abjured any claims on the territories it itself had unjustly acquired in the Soviet-Polish war, while finally regaining what had been stolen from it centuries earlier. thus, both wrongs had been righted at the same time.
furthermore, as i’ve stated previously, all “german” territory west of the elbe/Labe/Łobjo was ancestrally Slavic land that the germans had occupied and subjected to forced germanisation. if anything, germany’s post-war eastern borders were too lenient and, in my opinion, should not have included Lusatia, etc.
you bringing up germany getting split up into several pieces is just ridiculous! as stated in the beginning, morgenthau explicitly called for the establishment of a US high commissioner as the main political control body over the entire area! do you seriously believe that the fucking americans would have used their even greater control over central and western europe to carry out honest denazification?? hell, even if they’d for some reasen ended up doing it, american power is never a good thing for socialism or anti-imperialism anywhere! how do i get this into peoples’ heads, ffs?!
also, it’s somewhat funny how you decided to completely ignore my point about national minorities. ironically, you and the germans seem to be in the same boat on this one, lmao
finally, ill ask you again to please educate yourself on the soviet government’s approach to the german question, as those people (unlike yanks like mogenthau) actually experienced the horrors of fascist occupation, as well as it just being better to read communists instead of some dipshit in washington.
look, i’m not obliged to respond to every point you make, i’ve got better things to do than wrestle in the mud with someone trying to wring arguments out of well meaning comrades making jokes.
i didn’t reply to your argument about national minorities because it was completely unformed. how would it be worse for them, when there’s no provisions about them in the plan we’re talking about? was i supposed to guess? this isn’t an effective, or kind way to communicate.
not interested in any grains i’d reap from carrying on with this.
I don’t find it reasonable that feudal relations would’ve been restored in the 1940s-1950s when capitalism has been well-established for centuries with imperialism as the current stage. Honestly, I can’t even think of a country where feudal restoration is a thing outside of maybe going from Cromwell’s Protectorate back to the UK or the Dutch Republic being replaced with the Kingdom of the Netherlands. And even those two are more about the capitalists of those countries taking a few steps back in the political arena while the mode of production they represent still marched onward to replace the feudal mode of production. The UK and the Netherlands are still kingdoms, yet no one seriously thinks they’re feudal societies, and they haven’t been feudal societies for centuries.
For the rest of your post, I broadly agree/have no comment.