There’s a debate that goes like: America supports the Zionist cause because of strategic interest in the middle east, to test weaponry, to park aircraft, etc. The other side says America supports Zionism because of powerful lobbying from organizations like AIPAC and the ADL. Then I guess there’s a third explanation involving American evangelicals and their religious doctrines, along with their own lobbying and campaigning.

For me personally it seems like it’s all of those things at the same time, with perhaps strategic interest being the most pressing. I say that because of the multiple instances of the CIA discovering things like Israeli spying equipment in Washington DC, and yet nothing is done. There are literal Israeli intelligence assets working as aides to senators and nothing is done. I only ever see feds do that when they’ve been instructed something is off-limits.

I also know this wasn’t always the case, because people like Johnathan Pollard got thrown in jail. And I know the Bush Sr admin was less amicable. So what’s yall’s stance here

  • Sanctus@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    12·
    24 days ago

    I assume its because they’re the same thing. Same ideals, wants, needs, everything. Zionists got their playbook from Nazis who got it from the US which all of this bullshit ideology is built on top.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      9·
      24 days ago

      Yeah but when did that happen? Israel wasn’t particularly backed by western powers until maybe 1956, and that seemed more like an alliance of convenience because Egypt had just nationalized the Suez canal and the west wanted to invade and take it back. Israel and the UK fought a hot war in the late 40s and I don’t think they were on great terms.

      Then after the six-day war in 1967 it seems like the west was split. America was begging Israel to stop fighting, France became outright hostile and ceased arms shipments, and the UK fence-sat and declared neutrality. When did it become this unconditional support for Zionism in spite of any other concerns?

      • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        10·
        24 days ago

        I think it goes back to Cold War politics. The Middle East was adjusting to decolonization in the post war era, which meant there was opportunity for both the West and the Soviets to form alliances and expand influence there. So Israel making appeals to Western powers, the US specifically, made them a central pillar and base for combating Soviet influence in the region. And don’t forget, the Soviets were supplying the Arab side of the Arab-Israeli war of 1973, which just solidified the idea in the West that supporting Israel actively undermined the USSR.