Too much propaganda, I am still confused.

What happened?

What was the goal?

Who did it?

Planning?

Coordination?

I’ve heard that it was more successful than anticipated. That it was a calling of questions. It was the first time something like that was attempted. That the military techniques were innovative.

Not so much asking about the effects, or what has been made. But in the days, months, years prior, what was the thought process? Who was involved and what was their mandate/constituencies?

What was intended for Oct 8, December, January and June?

      • As an excerpt, regarding the factors that caused Operation Al Aqsa’s start in Oct 7

        Questioner: What factors, in your opinion, prompted the Palestinian resistance to launch the October 7th attack?

        The first reason is that regionally you had a process of normalization with a number of Arab states having signed normalization agreements with Israel without insisting on a Palestinian state

        The second reason has to do with the West Bank, and the fact that in the year of 2003, leading up to 7th October, you had a huge increase in settler attacks

        About 1100 Palestinians have been displaced since 2022

        And then the third reason has to do with Gaza itself, with the long siege that had been ongoing since 2007

        Additionally, the occupation’s brutality in its crimes against our prisoners increased after placing them under the responsibility of the fascist and racist minister Ben Gvir

        This included either killing by starvation, as with Sheikh Khader Adnan, or death by neglect for prisoners and the sick, like prisoner Nasser Abu Hmaid and prisoner Walid Abu Daqa

        Or sentencing them to life imprisonments unparalleled in the world, reaching thousands of years, in unbearable conditions.

        Now, the world has an opportunity to act and intervene to prevent this major confrontation

        All our attempts to push the international will to restrain the occupation’s aggression against Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa Mosque had failed

        He attacked and assaulted, And torture, without any deterrent

        And the cries for help rose

        From Jerusalem, Al-Aqsa, and our people in the West Bank

        They did not hide their intentions to build their alleged temple on the ruins of the Prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) sacred site

        They even brought the red cows to burn them and scatter their ashes as a practical declaration to demolish Al-Aqsa, and build the temple

        They dared to insult the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) inside the courtyards of the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque

        Here in Gaza, the systematic siege tightened

        They intended slow death for our people

        We could not stand idly by, or remain spectators

        It was never in our creed as resistance to hesitate or delay in defending the Prophet’s (PBUH) sacred site

        Thus, Al-Aqsa Flood became a necessity

        To thwart the enemy’s systematic plan

        With a devastating preemptive strike that was unprecedented, defending our sanctities, our people, and our resistance

        We warned that this reality is unacceptable and unsustainable

        But the occupation responded with attempts to deceive us, trying to neutralize our resistance in Gaza by offering limited improvements in Gaza’s living conditions

        Offering partial relief in exchange for unlinking the situation in the West Bank, Jerusalem, and prisoners with the situation Gaza’s

        This naturally reinforced our inclination to activate the military option especially with all other options failing

      • Questioner: The term used by Al-Qassam’s leader was noteworthy: that Al-Aqsa Flood was a preemptive war

        Q: Does this mean that Israel was preparing to strike Gaza?

        Good question

        There were talks within Israeli security agencies, especially at the security level and, to a lesser extent, the political level around Netanyahu,

        On the security level, and the Shin Bet

        They said Israel must act regarding the situation in Gaza

        We monitored signs and seized information confirming the enemy’s plans to initiate a devastating war on Gaza believing we would not align with their proposals

        The information we obtained indicated specific timings for launching this treacherous attack, planned to commence immediately after the Jewish holidays with a surprise aerial strike, targeting all resistance factions, followed by a wide-scale and destructive ground attack on our people, land, and resources.

        We took this information seriously, while maintaining contact with all mediators, and issued directives to intensify intelligence efforts and complete military preparations

        An investigation by Israel’s Channel 12 revealed a meeting between Netanyahu and security heads on October 1st, 2023, just six days before the operation, where the Shin Bet chief presented a plan to eliminate Hamas leaders, including Sinwar and Al-Deif

        The Chief of Staff agreed, stating: “We need a major campaign against Gaza” due to its responsibility for what he called directing terrorism in the West Bank

        During the planning phase, the Intelligence Division obtained a document concerning the work of the occupation’s elite intelligence unit, Unit 8200, through a security breach of one of its servers

        The document was studied and analyzed, and its content was incorporated into the planning process

        This information points to a carefully crafted plan developed years before the operation, as referenced by Al-Qassam in some of the statements by its spokesperson Abu Ubaida

        It will demonstrate how we managed to carry out a complex strategic deception against the Shin Bet and the enemy’s security apparatus over years

        Hamas hinted on multiple occasions in its statements at Al-Aqsa Flood, without Israel picking up on any clue

        Oh herald of the growling flood

        Oh warning of the erupting volcano

        Turn into a growling flood

        Terrify the collaborators,

        coordinators, and occupiers

        We must say this:

        Hamas succeeded in hypnotizing Israel

        And succeeded in deceiving it

        Carrying out a highly complex

        operation over two or three years

        The decision was to adopt a strategic deception and misinformation plan against the enemy

        We made them believe we had swallowed the bait of ease measures

        Meanwhile, preparations for combat were ongoing with full intensity

      • Beyond the question you asked, I heard someone say “whatever happened here?” with similar phrasing to your question, with a picture of tank man

        When I see this, I just think “either this person is genuinely curious or is trying rhetorically imply some sort of western narrative against a certain political group or government” either way, they’re gonna be responded with arguments quite inflamed

        Sorry if I seemed apprehensive

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          nobody’s arguments are inflamed? I really don’t think I can be held responsible because 2 years ago someone else made a thread that also had the words “what*” and “happened” of which there are many.

          I’m still watching the video. how did you get the transcript?