A clip from this livestream: youtube.com/live/Q6c3pXG62K4

It’s often said that hierarchy is necessary because humans are selfish and greedy. But is that really the case? Hierarchy creates a system where the worst actors are given the easiest path to power.

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    Jarvis Cocker - Still Running the World

    Well did you hear, there’s a natural order Those most deserving will end up with the most That the cream cannot help but always rise up to the top Well I say, shit floats

    If you thought things had changed Friend you’d better think again Bluntly put in the fewest of words Cunts are still running the world

    Now the working classes are obsolete They are surplus to society’s needs So let 'em all kill each other And get it made overseas

    That’s the word, don’t you know? From the guys that’s running the show Let’s be perfectly clear boys and girls Cunts are still running the world

    Unfortunately the 2019 attempt to get it to #1 in the UK Christmas chart failed.

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      The Tyranny of Stuctureless https://share.google/SVXexcnipMwEed6pr

      I think thats a grave misreading of this text when you have it as a source for “Removing explicit hierarchies simply creates implicit ones”.

      Its a call out for groups that do not give themselves clear structures, roles, processes for decision making etc which can result in implicit hierarchies, especiallg long term. Bringing “structure” into those groups or building up groups from the ground up with horizontal structures are ways take on these issues.

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        No, those are ways to make sure your “horizontal structures” are dominated by the most charismatic Neurotypicals in the room at all times, to the detriment of anyone else.

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            Observation of the social dynamics described in the links above as they apply to any social group anywhere.

            Humans are Apes. Every troop of Apes has a leader, and further stratification below that. Humans are no different. If there isn’t a structure (deference to elders, to the smartest, etc) pushing for a different outcome, the dominant ape in a human troop is generally the most charismatic individual, with the strata below that generally determined by similarity or proximity to the leader. In any group larger than a handful, the most charismatic will almost certainly be Neurotypical.

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                Bonobos are apes, and a matriarchal leader of a troop is still a leader, so I’m not sure what this is meant to say in response to what I wrote?