I’m not a native English speaker, so forgive my ignorance, but isn’t “women” a noun, not an adjective? Why not just say “female artists” or “female writers”?

As a side note, I’ve also literally never seen anyone say “men artists” or “men writers”. What gives?

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    I’m not a native English speaker, so forgive my ignorance, but isn’t “women” a noun, not an adjective? Why not just say “female artists” or “female writers”?

    The English language is unusual in that it doesn’t have gendered nouns, so we find other, often quite clumsy, ways to indicate it. You’re right that it doesn’t make sense grammatically; we say it that way simply because it scans better.

    As a side note, I’ve also literally never seen anyone say “men artists” or “men writers”. What gives?

    Patriarchy. Society defaults to the male. That’s not unique to the English-speaking world, of course.

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      As a side note, I’ve also literally never seen anyone say “men artists” or “men writers”. What gives?

      Patriarchy. Society defaults to the male. That’s not unique to the English-speaking world, of course.

      By this I meant that people more often say something like “male nurse” than “man nurse”, but I agree, fuck the patriarchy.

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    To add on, I’ve found that referring to women as “females” in anything other than formal or scientific contexts has adopted something of a sour taste in recent years. The practice is often associated with incel/misogynistic behavior and ideology, probably because it implicitly strips women of their personhood and reduces them to their sex. Put another way, both a female dog and a female human could be called a “female”, but only one could be called a “woman”.

    That’s my own two cents though, take them with a grain of salt.

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      Yes, that is if you turn “female” into a noun, which does sound weird and dehumanizing, but using “women” as an adjective just sounds incorrect. Maybe people do that because they try to avoid saying “female” at all costs to avoid being accused of misogyny or dehumanization.