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    14 hours ago

    It looks like GrayJay only has an android application, with a desktop one in testing. I’m assuming you have to compile that yourself because it’s in testing. You aren’t supposed to be using it if you can’t compile it from source. Just run the android one in an emulator if you need it on desktop. That’s the same thing you’ll need to do on Windows.

    You know how to install programs on windows? You download the .exe, double click the file and it installs itself, every time.

    Yeah… You have to go to their website, hope it’s the real one, download the .exe and install it. Then to update it you have to do the same thing. On Linux you just tell your package manager to install it and then you’re done forever. It’ll keep it updated and you never have to think about it. The fact Windows apps are required to check online for updates and then you have to open it in a browser and download and install it yourself is the most garbage experience. You’re just used to it.

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      I’m assuming you have to compile that yourself because it’s in testing

      Weird, you don’t have to compile the Windows or Mac versions…? 🤷‍♂️

      hope it’s the real one

      …why wouldn’t it be the “real one” on their website?

      The fact Windows apps are required to check online for updates and then you have to open it in a browser and download and install it yourself is the most garbage experience. You’re just used to it.

      …no, they update themselves? Have you just never used anything other than Linux? It’s hard to imagine how you would not know this unless you hadn’t.

      It’ll keep it updated and you never have to think about it.

      Other than the pop-ups telling you you need to update every 5 minutes?

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        14 hours ago

        From their FAQ: “Do you have a desktop version? A desktop version is actively in the works, and already in internal testing phases.”

        It looks like you can download the pre-built applications for all of them though, including Linux. You probably just need to use chmod to let your system know it’s allowed to execute it.

        …why wouldn’t it be the “real one” on their website?

        I meant the website.

        …no, they update themselves? Have you just never used anything other than Linux? It’s hard to imagine how you would not know this unless you hadn’t.

        No they don’t… They tell you if there’s an update and then you have to do it.

        Other than the pop-ups telling you you need to update every 5 minutes?

        Mine doesn’t. I’m on Garuda. It just has an icon on the task bar.

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          14 hours ago

          From their FAQ

          Yes, I am aware. I did not argue that is isn’t for testing. I said you didn’t need to compile it for Mac or Windows, because it’s not expected of you to have a CS degree to install it.

          You probably just need to use chmod to let your system know it’s allowed to execute it.

          WTF is chmod? Execute what? How can you not see that this is a problem?

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            It is a problem. The fact Windows will just execute anything is an issue. That’s right. On Linux you need to tell your system to execute a file. That’s what chmod is for. (I think you may be able to do this with a right-click. I’m not sure. You just need to tell your system that a file is an executable and it’s allowed to do so.)

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              Well now you’re just blatantly lying. Windows doesn’t execute anything without you asking it to. The difference is that it works when you do.

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                I think you misunderstood. It will anything whether it should or not. Also, other processes can execute a thing even if it shouldn’t. It can be made to execute a payload that shouldn’t be run.

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                  I think you misunderstood.

                  I didn’t.

                  It will anything whether it should or not.

                  It does what it’s told, which is the way an OS should work.

                  It can be made to execute a payload that shouldn’t be run.

                  And Linux can’t? Isn’t that the whole thing about Linux and open software is that it can be made to do whatever you want?