Yeah well, when everyone else goes “I don’t like two launchers on my PC so he’s the devil incarnate and everything he does is evil”, it’s hard to defend him without it looking like his account.
I’m not saying he’s even necessarily not an asshole, I don’t know him personally, I just know that things that PC gamers hate on him for pale in comparison to the things anti-trust campaigners praise him for.
Look dude, Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney are capitalists just like anyone else with a big business. They make decisions based on profit, not on doing the most good. Breaking Terms of Service to get on the Apple store wasn’t a fucking holy war to save gamers from an evil corporation, it was one evil corporation taking a stab at another evil corporation because they wanted a cut of the profits.
Jesus, stop treating these people like they give a fuck about anything other than money. Valve is such a good example and people fucking flip out when you point out that nearly every positive thing they’ve ever done was actually forced on them due to legislation of some kind. Like being able to return games in a 2-hour play window? Pretty sure that was Australia that forced that one.
“Valve is a United States company with 2.2 million Australian accounts which received 21,124 tickets in the relevant period containing the word “refund” from consumers with Australian IP addresses,” Justice Edelman wrote in his judgement.
“Yet it had a culture by which it formed a view without Australian legal advice that it was not subject to Australian law, and it was content to proceed to trade with Australian consumers without that advice and with the view that even if advice had been obtained that Valve was required to comply with Australian law the advice might have been ignored.”
A court found in May that Steam’s website breached Australian Consumer Law because it stated consumers were not entitled to a refund and had no access to minimum quality guarantees.
Valve literally set up in Australia without ever once consulting Australian law, that’s the definition of being a sucky fucking business that’s more concerned with profit than, you know, following the law. They literally told gamers to go fuck themselves and that if they bought a game that was broken on release, they didn’t deserve a “minimum quality guarantee.”
Valve sucks, Epic sucks, they all suck because they’re all capitalists dude. In the end, the money matters, not the gamers, they’re just the source of the money. They only ever do genuinely good things when forced to by outside parties.
Look dude, Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney are capitalists just like anyone else with a big business. They make decisions based on profit, not on doing the most good
Everyone who runs a big business has to understand how capitalism works, that does not mean they have to believe in it as a system, nor does it mean they have to make every decision to maximize profit at every possible step. Especially when the company is privately controlled.
Breaking Terms of Service to get on the Apple store wasn’t a fucking holy war to save gamers from an evil corporation, it was one evil corporation taking a stab at another evil corporation because they wanted a cut of the profits.
It was a shot in a million stab, and it was a stab that if landed, would give every single software developer more money, instead of Apple hoarding it for no reason.
Stop acting like since both sides are corporations, both of their arguments will lead to equally bad outcomes. This is literally just a false equivalency fallacy.
Valve sucks, Epic sucks, they all suck because they’re all capitalists dude. In the end, the money matters, not the gamers, they’re just the source of the money. They only ever do genuinely good things when forced to by outside parties.
Even if I accept your premise that it’s impossible that Tim Sweeney is a human being motivated by human emotions and desires, it still does not matter, because Epic’s crusade to break up monopolies will mean less money that Apple hoards for no reason, and more money going to the developers actually creating the software you use. It is an objectively better outcome.
There’s a reason that EU regulators agree with Epic, and it’s not because they’re motivated by Epic’s profit margins.
There’s a reason that EU regulators agree with Epic, and it’s not because they’re motivated by Epic’s profit margins.
No offense, but the EU regulators shouldn’t need Tim Sweeney making this clear to them. They should have done something about monopolization on their own a decade ago. It’s honestly really pathetic that it took a large company taking on another large company for them to even notice this was a problem. The Apple store has been a monopolization tactic since day one. Apple’s app store has been around since 2008. It’s 2024.
If we’re all waiting on corporations to save us, we’re fucked.
Yeah well, when everyone else goes “I don’t like two launchers on my PC so he’s the devil incarnate and everything he does is evil”, it’s hard to defend him without it looking like his account.
I’m not saying he’s even necessarily not an asshole, I don’t know him personally, I just know that things that PC gamers hate on him for pale in comparison to the things anti-trust campaigners praise him for.
Look dude, Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney are capitalists just like anyone else with a big business. They make decisions based on profit, not on doing the most good. Breaking Terms of Service to get on the Apple store wasn’t a fucking holy war to save gamers from an evil corporation, it was one evil corporation taking a stab at another evil corporation because they wanted a cut of the profits.
Jesus, stop treating these people like they give a fuck about anything other than money. Valve is such a good example and people fucking flip out when you point out that nearly every positive thing they’ve ever done was actually forced on them due to legislation of some kind. Like being able to return games in a 2-hour play window? Pretty sure that was Australia that forced that one.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/video-games-website-steam-fined-3-million-for-refusing-refunds-20161223-gthdux.html
Valve literally set up in Australia without ever once consulting Australian law, that’s the definition of being a sucky fucking business that’s more concerned with profit than, you know, following the law. They literally told gamers to go fuck themselves and that if they bought a game that was broken on release, they didn’t deserve a “minimum quality guarantee.”
Valve sucks, Epic sucks, they all suck because they’re all capitalists dude. In the end, the money matters, not the gamers, they’re just the source of the money. They only ever do genuinely good things when forced to by outside parties.
Everyone who runs a big business has to understand how capitalism works, that does not mean they have to believe in it as a system, nor does it mean they have to make every decision to maximize profit at every possible step. Especially when the company is privately controlled.
It was a shot in a million stab, and it was a stab that if landed, would give every single software developer more money, instead of Apple hoarding it for no reason.
Stop acting like since both sides are corporations, both of their arguments will lead to equally bad outcomes. This is literally just a false equivalency fallacy.
Even if I accept your premise that it’s impossible that Tim Sweeney is a human being motivated by human emotions and desires, it still does not matter, because Epic’s crusade to break up monopolies will mean less money that Apple hoards for no reason, and more money going to the developers actually creating the software you use. It is an objectively better outcome.
There’s a reason that EU regulators agree with Epic, and it’s not because they’re motivated by Epic’s profit margins.
No offense, but the EU regulators shouldn’t need Tim Sweeney making this clear to them. They should have done something about monopolization on their own a decade ago. It’s honestly really pathetic that it took a large company taking on another large company for them to even notice this was a problem. The Apple store has been a monopolization tactic since day one. Apple’s app store has been around since 2008. It’s 2024.
If we’re all waiting on corporations to save us, we’re fucked.