• ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
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    15 hours ago

    Ignoring the Seagate part, which makes sense… Is there a reason with 36TB?

    I recall IT people losing their minds when we hit the 1TB, when the average hard drive was like 80GB.

    So this growth seems right.

    • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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      13 hours ago

      It’s raid rebuild times.

      The bigger the drive, the longer the time.

      The longer the time, the more likely the rebuild will fail.

      That said, modern raid is much more robust against this kind of fault, but still: if you have one parity drive, one dead drive, and a raid rebuild, if you lose another drive you’re fucked.

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        9 hours ago

        Just rebuilt onto Ceph and it’s a game changer. Drive fails? Who cares, replace it with a bigger drive and go about your day. If total drive count is large enough, and depends if using EC or replication, it could mean pulling data from tons of drives instead of a handful.

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          44 minutes ago

          It’s still the same issue, RAID or Ceph. If a physical drive can only write 100 MB/s, a 36TB drive will take 360,000 seconds (6000 minutes or 100 hours) to write. During the 100-hour window, you’ll be down a drive, and be vulnerable to a second failure. Both RAID and Ceph can be configured for more redundancy at the cost of less storage capacity, but even Ceph fails (down to read only mode, or data loss) if too many physical drives fail.

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            14 minutes ago

            While true, it can fill the drive replacement with data spread from way more number of drives than raid can, so the point I was trying to make is that a second failure due to resilvering cam be greatly mitigated by using a Ceph setup.

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      15 hours ago

      I recall IT people losing their minds when we hit the 1TB

      1TB? I remember when my first computer had a state of the art 200MB hard drive.

      • Keelhaul@sh.itjust.works
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        13 hours ago

        Quick note, HDD storage is not using transistors to store the data, so is not really directly related to Moore’s law. SSDs do use transistors/nano structures (NAND) for storage and it’s storage capacity is more related to Moore’s law.