• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    I understand your position.

    But I think, to have open borders, it needs to be much more than a mere majority that are free to cross the border. “Military aged males” are a huge portion of the population, eyeballing it I’m coming up with 1/5th of the entire country.

    If millions of people can’t leave, there aren’t open borders.

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      First halve that because you are only talking about exiting. Foreigns can enter and exit. Ukrainians can enter. People who cannot be conscripted can exit (women, too old, too disabled, guardians, single fathers, athletes, students etc). Ukraine is at war. I would say that 100% of people who should be able to pass can pass. The claim that Ukraine “DOES NOT have open borders” is false or grossly misleading.

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        I would say that 100% of people who should be able to pass can pass.

        Wow, your every comment is better than the previous one.

        You would be the person saying “I would say that 100% of people who should be free are free” just a small time ago in USA…

        You are the best example of why liberals are the most anti-liberty and pro-discrimination people out there.

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        Ukrainians can enter. People who cannot be conscripted can exit (women, too old, too disabled, guardians, single fathers, athletes, students etc).

        A one way border isn’t exactly open and saying it is is what is grossly misleading.

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          “Why are you calling this facility a prison? Sure, you cannot leave, but at least you can ENTER!”

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          Yeah the US clearly has an open southern border. How could you not see that? /s