It absolutely is.
I was gonna block but now I’m curious because the comments and posts it’s made don’t make the goal clear yet.
So time to make a shot drinking game: Troll, PsyOp, Good intentioned but weird social experiment from the good comrades, bad intentioned but weird social experiment from the bad comrades, or Corpo Intrusion?
I love the Fediverse.
Functional and hypothetical only example usage of a curated digital footprint, for story purposes:
You keep, use, maintain, and preferably daily drive technology interfacing gizmos in a manner that results in a footprint where the conclusions drawn from it resolve to a “curated” set of… whatever the beholder is looking to ID from the footprint.
Functional example:
You keep and use devices in a manner that is at most “normie+”.
You own a Pixel Phone but keep stock android on it and add just enough to it not make you hate your life. You use a couple of normal sub services.
You still show some of your silly, like use an account on a porn website that federates with the world you care to socialize with. You still post how The Man better watch out.
Same as everyone else. The fingerprint looks like what you want it to look like.
So that it remains separate from what could happen/be happening elsewhere inside a Faraday cage with other devices there. How they are configured like, or who they talk to, the networks you utilize and the level of silly you display in your other accounts that have never so much as shared a trace route in passing together.
That’s hypothetically separate from the curated digital identity, depending on how careful and good at it your set up was.
So when the friendly folks with the mass surveillance pull up your file, it’s composed of what you wanted there to begin with.
It’s just another implementation layer of minimizing and compartmentalization, really.
Hypothetically. For a friend.
Indeed. But that paradigm breaks when the percentage at stake, the password ultimately being wrenched for, is literally infinite wealth.
That’s what immortality functionally is. Some things by logical extension, and others admittedly chances to attempt them, but potentially infinite of 'em chances. At anything. The acquisition of any resource is not even a full chapter in the new book.
If you (generic you, here the kind of person who would be in the sphere of the kind of person to attempt to withhold and control immortality already) are even remotely close enough to pick up a wrench and take it to whoever is holding it, you don’t settle for a percentage, you go start the first of a long line of endless beatings on the first Immortal. It’s the only value proposition that makes sense, any degree of acquiescence against your interests, is agreeing to give them up and do so for potential eternity.
Imo, there’s only one way uh…well, it’s not ethical in our framework but I’m ready to argue how it is from the framework of a future immortal POV…I guess way to handle immortality.
You dose everyone with it. Full send it, most heinous final act of Humanity. Go straight to the deepest hell, the first Immortal cell belongs to you. But then everyone has to deal with fucking around and the finding out, forever, no exceptions or excuses.
Shit will get solved and we’ll be on our way to solar expansion so freaking fast.
I honestly don’t think anyone is prepared to wield that set of keys to effectively enforce control on anyone.
They’re simply too valuable, sought after, and desired, imo.
I’d expect that the moment an individual despot or even a cabal thereof attempts to do so, they’ll go in a very shortlist designed with only one purpose in mind: Demonstration of the ways immortality absolutely sucks for you if guys with a bunch of wrenches are beating you up for the password.
Honestly, a smart and sane Oligarch should fear nothing with a greater degree of dread, than immortality.
FUCK GEN AI.
Alright, clear opening, I think I can follow this comment.
All of you here excusing it or saying "oh its not AI its the corporations can suck my left nut.
Uninterested in technical detail, and blaming corporations, with a request for left nut oral for any holding any views thereof, ok, still following your stance, very clear.
but I am an anarchist and I stand firmly against all forms of AI.
Sweet, the thesis statement.
The only ethical use is
Wait, what?
data sets pertaining to medical and research models
But we can’t talk about the technology that allows that, or it’s the left nut for us?
that are locally run.
So… non-corporate use is okay?
AI is a control tool and if you self host, IMO it reads to me like you want an info slave.
Well, yeah, I mean, we can call it an info daemon or something cooler, but yeah, for the control of the medical and the research datasets, yeah?
I’m very confused. Do I help you suck your own left nut or do I nuzzle the right one, comrade?
Which curiously enough, can also photosynthesize, and more readily absorb energy from green light than chlorophyll!
Makes me wonder what could be achieved with some careful engineering…
Note: Source has a “soft” subscription wall (non-scripted element), FF reader mode enough to bypass.
It’s full of practical and common sense suggestions, for navigating the current legalities of the system and how to attempt to receive accountability, in the events described in the headline.
That is all I will say about it, directly. I will never personally use it.
As the one in my family most likely to be the initial target in the hypothetical scenario, I hadn’t considered my stance and position on the subject, should it not be me who is murdered by the…fuck, I don’t have energy for euphemisms anymore.
Personally, if I’m caught within that situation, new articles will have to be written about the events proceeeding, regardless of the actual outcomes.
Preservation letters? Family Captain? Canvass the neighborhood for un-tampered with evidence?
Yes, those are indeed tools, but I wouldn’t be using them as proscribed in that article.
A known to be a poorly designed intersection. Bike lanes that were removed years earlier over driver complaints. And an 87 year old driver, not under the influence of anything (except fucking time).
Just straight plowed through the victim from behind, because how else would it have gone with the fucking road design all throughout this wasteland?
There’s so many goddamn layers that shouldn’t have congealed into this goddamn system, responsible for this pointless death.
That’s just for Google’s AI summaries, but it’s the only one with actual methodology disclosed I could find on a quick (non-AI) search.
Plenty of SEO mills with their own “studies” too, and the trend is similar. People don’t interact with the source sites or if they do it’s extremely seldom.
They (SEO mills) are currently trying to flip the gaslight towards “Worry not dear Webmaster, now you just have to make sure your content is now formed so it’s engaging for AI search and engage able right from the AI!” type shit.
I’m tired boss, and I’m not even generally (as in, in all aspects) anti-AI. Yet, I guess.
Ugga ugga big bonk is not something you build for.
You can, but such planning is clearly indicative of DEX thinking. All Bonk requires is the bravery to face your foes, and bonk them.
You simply start, grab the biggest, heaviest, most bonky bonk stick you are blessed with within 15 minutes of playing.
It will be there. The bonk is always there, waiting to be recognized.
You grab it and you pump your numbers into enough str to bonk really fucking hard with it.
You then go and bonk.
In the course of bonking, you learn you need to sustain a minimum amount of bonking yourself, in order to bonk the best you can bonk.
You then hold up three fingers, that is all you need. That is more syllables than ‘bonk’ has, so for every time you say bonk, you put a point in STR and another in VIT.
This continues until you feel you are no longer being bonked before your own bonking takes place.
Depending on how many syllables you think ‘bonk’ has as you were chanting it earlier, you will end up with roughly 1 VIT for every 3-4 STR.
That is all the thinking you need. Even other bonk sticks, while plentiful, are optional.
I do believe you’re absolutely correct in essence, even if the mechanisms are subject to debate.
I switched to only getting around by E-bike 90% of the time, and the effect you describe regarding bicycle trip time subjectivity is absolutely real.
Taking 45 minutes to go 15 miles away feels a lot faster and relaxing than the 20 minutes it would be by car. People wave at you and you at them, that’s still a thing!
About the only time the American psyche is confronted with the prospect of mindfulness and driving, is during the now nearly mythical “road trip” and even that experience has long since been reduced to listening to nav voice as you drive fast from point to point.
I think I saw those same comments. I almost went to check my water lines for LSD for a minute after reading. Smug posting doesn’t even begin to cover it, it was so fucking surreal. Even direct links to verified and declassified facts both were like shit on a pig on that one. I didn’t think there was something to make me prefer the average person’s total blissful ignorance on the topic but that person’s creepy smug whitewashed reality shit was some next level wtf.
EDIT: Rock a bye baby, turn the phone off. Sleep and resty.
That is illegal under GDPR, if true
This statement is unfortunately doing a lot of work with the word “that”, even if I dearly wish it wasn’t so. Like, I really wish it were that easy, it would even the playing field back to the non-corporate webmaster almost instantly.
But alas.
The GDPR doesn’t have some special category where data only becomes data once you hit Submit. Article 4 literally defines “processing” to include collection, recording, and storage. So yes, depending on what the site is actually doing, it can absolutely be processing what you type before you submit anything:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_4/oj/eng
But that does not get you from “they captured it” to “therefore illegal.” GDPR doesn’t prohibit processing personal data; it regulates how and why you can do it. Article 6 gives six possible lawful bases for processing, including consent, contractual necessity, and legitimate interests (and it is bastardizing the spirit of how these six interconnect that these companies use to skirt intent of the law):
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_6/oj/eng
The actually interesting question is what they’re capturing, why, how long they retain it, what they do with it, whether they disclosed that processing, and what lawful basis they’re claiming.
That’s where you can potentially have a GDPR problem.
Article 5 requires, among other things, fairness/transparency, purpose limitation, data minimization, limited retention, and appropriate security:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_5/oj/eng
And Article 13 requires the relevant information to be provided when the personal data is obtained. There isn’t a magical “well technically the user never clicked Submit” exemption from transparency:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_13/oj/eng
There’s also a separate ePrivacy issue if we’re talking about storing or accessing information on the user’s device. Article 5(3) generally requires consent unless the storage/access is strictly necessary to provide a service the user explicitly requested:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A62017CJ0673
And this is where the details get important again, because regulators have explicitly recognized things like short-lived, first-party “user-input” session cookies for multi-page forms as potentially falling within that necessary-function exemption. See WP29 Opinion 04/2012:
https://ec.europa.eu/justice/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2012/wp194_en.pdf
That is a very different animal from silently retaining abandoned form contents indefinitely, sending them somewhere unexpected, profiling somebody with them, or reusing them for advertising.
So if somebody actually wants to know whether their abandoned input was retained and what happened to it, GDPR gives them tools for finding out instead of having to speculate from browser behavior. Make an access request to the controller and ask what personal data they hold, the purposes/legal basis, recipients, retention period, and the source/context of the collection.
They normally have one month to respond under Article 12:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_12/oj/eng
If they don’t respond, or the answer establishes something questionable, then you have something concrete to take to the relevant supervisory authority under Article 77:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_77/oj/eng
The EDPB has the list of national authorities here:
https://www.edpb.europa.eu/contact_en
GDPR is leverage, not a magical force field that prevents a server from receiving bytes. The useful part is that it gives you a mechanism to make the controller explain what those bytes became, why they kept them, and what they did with them—and a regulator to complain to if the answers suck.
Mate, I hear ya. Everything you said has many kernels of truth in it, but it doesn’t invalidate what the commenter you’re replying to, is trying to tell you.
There will not be enough workers to support us in old age.
This is precisely, why it’s important to badger and force representatives into the exact same discussion about changes to the bill, as the OOP’s shared article touches upon.
You first raise the cap, so the millionaires who are temporarily embarrassed billionaires pay their fair share, and once those loud mother fuckers get used to it, they’re now on your side to keep pushing it up until it hits the owner class.
Productivity gains ain’t decreasing, and the automation that the labor class toiled to make a reality for these fuckheads, shouldn’t have all of its production gain remain as profit for the owners
Nothing can. Not for any website. It never has.
Even if the site’s platform wasn’t set up with a simple and trivial to implement function(s) to undo posted changes on the front/back end interfaces, and even if it does allow the delete button to actually delete the entry from the database (to my knowledge, this wasn’t even the norm before the corpo takeover of the web)…
It’s like, 2-3 simple SQL queries to pull a backup pre-the changes, and merge back in whatever form you want into the live database.
This was always possible, since the day we started using DBs to better serve dynamic content.
Again, this applies to pretty much any web property.
It’s stupidly common and easy. Practically any text field can be made to capture and cache “unsent” data, because it’s not actually a standard text field that only does POST when you submit, but rather something that is continuously polled (usually AJAX) and the data saved to whatever database tables they got set up for it.
Wonders of scripting.
NoScript will stop it, but then the platforms that rely on this bullshittery for ill, usually are the kind to try to force you into having JavaScript or worse enabled.
Some examples of this I’ve seen/used in the wild:
When I worked at a credit union, the last upgrade to the “online banking” towards Lumin(link to their marketing site in case you want to see their screenshots, almost no CU/Bank who uses them bothers to customize it) the then “hot and new” vendor platform that was hot then amongst digital banking solutions for small to midsize institutions, uses it on every text field.
E.g. the search omnibar input from atop the accounts where you can search help topics, and the input from the fields around the FAQ sections (input meaning both sent queries and anything typed but not submitted) were all visible to the call center folks, with strings like “user typed ‘how do I hide my 10k deposit through mobile banking’ into [field name] but did not submit”, as these were expected to be data for the reps to use in their servicing or whatever.
Another (much bigger) example: The omni bar at Google.com specifically (and I have no idea how many in their Android apps, but given that they have more control there than over your browser I’d just assume every single one…Google Keyboard included).
If you get yourself through all the trouble and effort to somehow arrive at search site unknown (your customized FF privacy fork is really fucking good or something) and for some reason need or allow scripting on their page and type ad targetty helpful info but never search…it’s still gonna make it into whatever shadow profile they’re prepping for linkage to the real you ASAP, and eagerly wants to personalize those ads with your unsent data.
My own community writing website:
It came bundled with a Xenforo add-on I used for some stupid feature I wasn’t smart enough to do myself 5-7 years ago. I don’t run any sort of ads or tracking whatsoever on my site, so it’s pretty much useless.
Can already hear you making
This implies preemptive assumptions on my part. I could be wrong. You stated facts, true.
If that is the extent of your stance on the topic, then that portion of my comment is irrelevant, and needlessly combative.
Not that I’m apologizing for it, these are not the times for that.
AuDHD.
A memory has to cross a terrifying gauntlet before it can even become a memory.
Then another for classification purposes.
Some of the categories, are terrifyingly photographic accurate, even decades later.
No, I don’t quite get to pick the categories.