I feel like there was involvement with VTC’s admin since that was before Lemmy had a Vote-view API for mods and they were helping get vote counts to ban people for downvoting but maybe that wasn’t happening and they weren’t involved. It’s not really valid these days anymore since every instance now has Vote-View enabled for moderators and Lemvotes allows anyone to see votes on any post or comment in Lemmy if they so choose.

Was Hitler even actually a Vegetarian? I feel like I read somewhere that that was a myth and he actually did eat meat fairly often.

Yeah I don’t really understand people who go there. It seems like a terrible place to be.

Too bad you’re on lemmy.world and they don’t federate with your server. You could DMCA your own comments on their server and claim you don’t agree to their TOS. That can sometimes get the host or registrar to take the site down.

(This is legal, you OWN the copyright to the things you write, and your instance TOS only guarantees they have the right to host it, it doesn’t guarantee anyone else that right.)

I almost forgot about Vegantheoryclub.org I remember controversy about them with !vegan@lemmy.world where one of the mods of that community was also an admin on there or had ties to the admin there and was using it to ban anyone who criticized her or downvoted her. She was posting a ton of reactionary content (some of which was misinformation) and even tried to ban LW admins from the community. They eventually booted her and she tried to use alts to add herself back but ended up getting all of them booted and then used an alt to try and create more drama.

Yeah I strongly recommend people stay away from vegantheoryclub, they’re not a good instance. Their admin clearly has problems.

Can it copy the existing database structure? Like could an instance migrate and have users just login to the piefed instance as if nothing had changed? If not point remains. Migrating software later in the life cycle of the platform is a destructive process, and one done with very little purpose considering the nature of open-source software.

Unless Piefed gets a database import ability to port Existing Lemmy databases to that I don’t think Switching to it would be such a great idea. It would mean starting our instance from scratch and losing everything we have content, user registrations, communities. If Sublinks hadn’t stalled it could be a promising alternative, and maybe will be in the future, since it’s built around that whole concept of database and API compatibility.

This is really shitty but it doesn’t surprise me at all. He’s trying to make a shift because he doesn’t want to face repercussions of being labeled transphobic, possibly being widely banned and ostracized.

It’s very different when someone actually realizes they were wrong and want to change and be better. Nutomic isn’t doing that here, he just wants people to give donations and to avoid fallout from him letting his opinions slip publicly.

He’s an enlightened ““centrist””. I’m very familiar with these types.

I’ve kind of given up on the idea of playing those types of competitive online games, not just because of people cheating in them but also because of how the community these days addresses cheating, by witch-hunting and accusing people of cheating for being too good, or for sucking at the game, or for having opinions on surveillance and security (sometimes just because for being queer). They also often harass these people they target. I have hundreds of toxic assholes on Steam blocked for this behavior alone because they came to my profile to harass me.

ml might be a hard one to sell for people, if servers would defederate from ml that would be good but I think many servers right now are afraid of it backfiring like how Beehaw defederated lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works and killed 90% of their interaction and 100% of their network effect overnight.

Of course I do think things are different now and if big servers defederated ML, ML would be the one to lose out, not the bigger servers. Only reason people still use the Bigger ML communities is because they continue to federate, if they weren’t people would use the other ones on places like lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, lemm.ee, and programming.dev.

Maybe, I guess it all depends on whether they agree on how transferable said license is, and whether courts or even just DMCA enforcers at a host or registar will agree with that (DMCA safe-harbor provisions encourage providers to act preemptively rather than duke it out in court else they risk losing protection against liability).

Obviously one’s own server’s TOS guarantees they have the license to host their users’ content, but it might not be as clear for other federated servers, since they have their own TOS that protects them in that event, but if the user didn’t sign up there, they aren’t agreeing to them, and they could even reject it and still have their content federated there whether they like it or not. Seems like it could potentially be a dicey grey area if they chose to pursue federation as copyright infringement. Especially if they copyrighted their comments and posts officially.

This is partly why I said that if @cm0002@lemmy.world signs up to dbzer0 and starts a vote he should include a lot of evidence of Hexhear’s wrongdoings because a lot of people are unaware of the majority of them, they just “have some personal issues with them, but nothing defederation-worthy”. Which is probably the same for a lot of people, it’s the fact that these add up that makes them problematic.

They don’t just have “personal problems with a few people”, they have widespread problematic behaviors and patterns.

The admins literally are “idiots like that”, one of their admins @CARCOSA@hexbear.net decided to harass me because during a spam wave I decided to alert some of the Lemmy instance admins of instances I’m on of the trolls who were spamming Nazi shit and they decided to yell at me because I didn’t include hexbear and lemmy.ml admins in my list of pings, and putting words in my mouth trying to claim I’m an evil person.

They’re not just encouraging that shitty behavior, they’re actively participating in it.

CC: @lka1988@sh.itjust.works

Do it. I know I’d certainly vote to defederate Hexbear. If you do and decide to make a vote to defederate hexbear include lots of evidence so no one votes against it out of ignorance, only vocal people or those freeze peach types (I don’t think there’s many of those but I’ve seen them here on Lemmy).

It’s an Anarchist instance, they try to be as democratic and community driven as possible. Actually this one here is very similar to that, we have !agora@sh.itjust.works where people can have discussions about things like that and mods may post a vote as well.

You might be able to force them to if you threaten to DMCA them for hosting your own copyrighted content. Posts and comments on Lemmy are technically literature which is copyright protected, and while you give your own instance license to host them via their Terms of service, you don’t necessarily give the same permission to remote instances like Hexbear.

That fun little loophole with how federation works, you can explicitly request instances exclude you or it can really suck for them. Lemmy should probably have a built-in option for this to exclude yourself in this manner but don’t count on the devs to add it unless people start DMCAing Hexbear and ML to “opt-out” of federation with those servers.

CC: @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Hopefully it does, it would be nice to have a privacy community that isn’t stationed on ml or world. The other runner being the one on Lemmy.world.

That’s awersome, now we just need to get people to move on from the linux community on lemmy.ml, there are some good ones like !linux@programming.dev, !linux@sh.itjust.works, and even !linux@lemmy.world but these still have less users than the linux community on lemmy.ml unfortunately.

It’s because not enough bigger instances have thrown in the towel and defederated lemmy.ml. Many people are able to ignore this issue when it hasn’t happened to them which is why they still choose to create communities there. Defederation though is harder to ignore since it kills your chances of starting a community there.