Thank you :). I understand your perspective better. I still think we oughta avoid the buzzword factory but this isn’t that kind of issue.

As a devops professional I understand your points perfectly here but IMHO container native is a much better more descriptive definition. Normies see cloud and think hyperscalers and big tech, not the CNCF. They don’t understand it and it’s our/your(/the CNCF’S) duty to make the concepts more accessible IMHO.