What does this have to do with BBC? Their coverage on the Israeli hooligans had headlines that at a glance made the responses of locals sound anti-Semitic; they didn’t lead with the instigation.

Thank you for your balanced and measured response. What you said is completely correct. I oversimplified quite a bit in my comment.

You need to read some general media sources that aren’t part of your ethnocultural nationalist colonialist bubble.

Yeah, even NBC’s headline isn’t great. But at least it doesn’t open with bogus “antisemitism” wording.

Fortunately the comments have been good. But the actual articles posted in OPs have been awful.

The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam’s central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam’s central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam’s central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

Haaretz also reported this story, but with details behind their paywall.

Seems like this was a result of Israeli arrogance, assuming it crashed or was shot down rather than recognizing that they aren’t the only ones with effective munitions.

They could choose to take this as a sign that war isn’t the path to safety, or that they just need to also depopulate Lebanon to bring safety. I think it’s obvious which they’ll do, of course.

In Article 49, the Fourth Geneva Convention, adopted on 12 August 1949, specifically forbade forced displacement: Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

(Short excerpt of the long section clarifying that it’s a war crime)

I don’t think pretending October 7th is the start of history is fair, though. Any discussion of October 7th needs to explore why people might become so angry as to take the actions taken on that day. It didn’t happen in a vacuum; it takes a lot to make people do that to other people.

Ah yes, we should make sure whenever we discuss Israeli atrocities that we explain why they are justified in doing what they do to the people whose land they stole and continue to steal. It’s purely reasonable self defense by innocents, don’t ya know!

It is deleted; what did it say?

Probably for as long as the US support is unconditional.

Is this a reference to the IDF’s murder of Irish peacekeeper Dermot McLaughlin in 1987, or something else?

A newer live update from BBC reports:

In 2006, during the last major confrontation, a UN Observation Position (OP) came under Israeli artillery and aerial bombardment. Despite repeated appeals to the IDF to stop firing, throughout 25 July, the OP on the outskirts of the village of Khiam was finally destroyed. Four UN military observers from Austria, Canada, China and Finland were killed. Israel’s ambassador to the US, Danny Ayalon, said “Unifil obviously got caught in the middle", and suggested that the deadly fire could have come from Hezbollah. A UN investigation concluded that the base had been destroyed by a 500kg precision-guided bomb dropped by an Israeli warplane.

Israel has been doing this for ages.

I’m not sure why it’s so hated. It’s a handy sanity check. By the way, it doesn’t know bbc.co.uk is BBC. It wants bbc.com.

They may have forgotten that unlike Gaza where they can plausibly-ish claim that everything remotely governmental was technically Hamas, that isn’t the case in Lebanon.

So you’re choosing the Netanyahu fanzine to increase the chance that Zionists don’t dismiss the story out of hand?

Yes. My powers are limited, so I do what little I can.