I’d love to see that article if you can find it. I’ll add it to a folder’s worth of bookmarks that is growing larger than it should.

I didn’t make any misinformation. Nor is there a strawman

You claimed there was misinformation. Show us where you think it is. Don’t be a hypocrite.

Shifting the blame of corporate lies onto the activist they lie to.

You socialist anarchists area a funny bunch.

What are you going on about? Sounds like you’re hyping yourself up to kill someone. Calm down.

It’s the exact opposite. Proton says Swiss law backs you. You say that Swiss law binds them to be against you.

If Proton said what you said, they wouldn’t be guilty of false advertising.

Proton’s homepage has a very different take on Swiss law.

Our technology and business are based upon this fundamentally stronger definition of privacy, backed also by Swiss privacy laws.

Proton is based in Switzerland, and your data does not go to the cloud. Instead, it stays under the protection of some of the world’s strongest privacy laws.

And a very different public message about whether they would capitulate vs defending your freedom.

We are a neutral and safe haven for your personal data, committed to defending your freedom.

Is it this, or something else?

https://theintercept.com/2025/09/12/proton-mail-journalist-accounts-suspended/

I’ve been following this on X/Twitter and I think one of the most egregious things that’s important to point out is that folks from Phrack reached out to Proton in private multiple times, and Proton ghosted them. Proton only engaged with them and then reinstated the accounts after Phrack went public and their X/Twitter post went viral. It also looks like one of the writers filed an appeal with Proton and Proton denied the appeal, so they manually investigated the incident and refused to reinstate the account and then only did after this got attention on X/Twitter.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45227316

You sound like you would be absolutely outraged if you found out Proton marketed itself towards activists. Have you looked at the promises on their homepage recently?

1. https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
2. https://cyberinsider.com/protonmail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain/
3. https://cyberinsider.com/protonmail-logs-users/

You already educated everybody here that Proton is not to be trusted when it comes to logging. What do I get out of talking to you further, my anarchist friend? If you see a couple more articles, will you make a post condemning Proton’s false advertisement?

all we have in the way of criticism is article after article of misinformation

Ironic you made misinformation to claim this. It’s a strawman. Anyway

negatives that are entirely out of their control

No, it’s their false advertisement that claims it is within their control.

Thank you for sounding the alarm about the untrustworthiness of this company. Keep on keeping on, my anarchist friend.

If you’re not a fan of it, take your complaints to Proton.

I appreciate you sounding the alarm that Proton’s PR here is not to be trusted, but you’re acting upset at the messenger.

Because, for some reason on Lemmy, people think Proton is above criticism, and will defend the corporation’s false claims of fighting for their users when we have article after article proving the opposite

I’ll still appreciate when if they fight for the right things.

Proton has a long history of capitulation.

And they have a history of making promises they don’t keep.

In fact, it’s so bad that Proton defender @Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus wrote a warning about how their statement here is basically not to be trusted.

Are you okay, comrade? I asked what he said actually triggered your outpouring of leftist decency in defense of the CEO class.

Yes, they capitulated.

I’m a little more concerned that in your rush to defend them, you seem to be implying that pushing back against the authorities should be the norm, which is way worse than what they’re doing here. Surely an anarchist [sic] can appreciate that.

You can’t have it both ways, comrade: Either you use this to locally harass cashiers, or you admit you made a bad comment that’s strangely popular among leftists.

Importantly, not to be confused with their email service’s IP logging

https://cyberinsider.com/protonmail-logs-users/

If the devices run Linux competently, they might be worth the price, with or without that extra Windows tax. At least compared to MacOS hardware, or even similarly decked out Windows-free boutique alternatives from places like System76.