I get what you are saying, the Russian revolution was a success despite sharing a feature that was a great hindrance. I think though that saying “X has always been like this” has a somewhat ahistorical quality to it. There is simply no good knowledge of the future.

bingo

Where I am from there are like 8 different leftists parties laying claim to the same chunk of people. There will be one big and relevant party in the end, but getting there has the danger of a bajillion parties competing and creating noise rather than directed struggle. XKCD standards meme

I would tend to agree on the class party aspect, but as with anything there is an outward motion. The most effective struggle doesn’t start at the higher levels of abstraction. Egoism comes first, not in the Stirnerian sense, where people make sure they are not deported by ice, where military service is eschewed, where when arrested the fifth amendment is kept in mind. The next stage would be tenant unions, trade unions, more organised forms of struggle. Then education, reading circles, discussions, talks and so on. I see the party as the capstone of all of these working class interests. Ultimately it becomes the expression of our species’ interest towards the end of class struggle.

It’s not about the wealthiest 0.5%, the oligarchs as you’d call them. All of this revolves around the struggle against capitalism. Workers (about 60 to 70% of society depending on the definition and employment rates) against the bourgeoisie (~15% including petit bourgeoisie).

^fedposting

Joining a union or creating one is one of the most subversive things one can do in this day and age. Propaganda for unions is very effective at leveraging the class schism in favour of workers/socialism.

Just don’t a union that advocates creating large weaponry or represents law enforcement/servants of the state.

Proper unionising makes capitalists piss their pants. I have read a ton about politics (to my detriment – rip mental health) and it seems to really give you the most bang for your buck.

You are also hardly engaging with any of my points beyond moralistic flukes, instead you seem to attempt to paint me as a Hamas supporter. Which I am not, because I am not big on natlib

Nowhere did I deny that there were civilians that were killed. Sure, there were, but it overlooks the targeting and the targeting was primarily a military concern.

I can also say that you are a disgusting specimen for posting antideutsche (ew!) music and derailing discussions about a genocide that has or will claim hundreds of thousands of lives.

Yikes!

It doesn’t matter, because I don’t have the intention of deconstructing a specific thing you said. My intention in to disqualify your general position, which supports Israel as evidenced by your unwarranted appeal to “murdered civilians” (which is equivalent to the “have they condemned Khhhamas?” cliche), again something that according to the original news source here in this post (https://www.newarab.com/news/german-state-bans-pro-palestine-group-over-antisemitism) has not been definitely shown to have been celebrated by the group.

As per the article:

Authorities also accused the group of supporting terror, highlighting remarks made by a prominent member who described the 7 October attacks on Israel as a “successful resistance action”. It is unclear when the statements were made.

This does not concern any official positioning by the group itself. It regards supposed statements by a single member.

You posted an Egotronic song, an act that is famously pro-Israel from what I can find online. Also you talk about “killing civilians”, a painful Hasbara talking point meant to deflect and divert attention away from Israel’s genocide in Palestine, which has been a continuity since the 40’s. The appeal to civilian deaths also masks the Israeli military being a primary target for Hamas, the occupying and terrorising force prior to Oct. 7 – I refer to Professor Dave’s fantastic video on Destiny. Remember here that Israel has nukes, the Palestinians outdated Soviet weapons at best. Israel also counts potentially self-inflicted deaths under the Hannibal directive as being deaths caused by the enemy side.

Secondly your point about murdering civilians would only be truly relevant if the organisation that was banned actually advocated that. The best “evidence” I could find regarding that was a claim about the one of the leaders of the organisation referring to Oct. 7 as an great act of resistance, it’s apparently not documented when they said this, in what context they said this, and most importantly not clear if they made such a statement in the first place.

More than a year ago German police raided flats of individuals who supposedly were members of this organisation, despite that not having been the case. It’s clear that there is significant overreach on the side of the German state to curtail speech. Palastina e.V. has been long-disbanded, but the German government decides to ban them? It makes no sense, from a traditional legalistic standpoint, it only makes sense when you consider German state interest. This is being criticised, you were derailing the discussion away from the core gripe.

sorry a gay wesleyan student hit me over the head with his meinkampf intersectionality edition, I am now super hitler (woke) /j (but on a serious note, this is what Israel defenders think I am)

Also, by your logic Israel IS committing genocide and should be stopped! Going by the UN’s ruling, but Ultradeutsche like you will be exceedingly selective in their argument. You will probably say that that ruling is false under some bullshit pretenses. Rules for thee, but not for me

You are committing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority in its purest form. Personally, I think your hasbara takes are laughable. They will one day be seen as being equivalent to defending the Nazis.

I can’t also stress enough that I am not an ML, don’t go around assuming shit about people.

Hey, the organisation was not celebrating Oct. 7. The ruling makes it look like it the organisation welcomed Oct. 7. Newsflash! They didn’t. Courts can make false decisions and you can go fuck yourself.

I encourage everyone reading this to watch the recent Professor Dave video on the Palestine issue, it’s really good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvDvhLkb9ms

OK, I don’t think he is a person.

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You are a brainwashed German. A German could deny Poland’s right to exist without getting charged with a crime. Why this double-standard for Israel, a state very openly committing genocide? The majority of the world is condemning the genocide and all you can talk about is limiting speech for what are practically splinter organisations of splinter organisations in terms of relevance. 🤦

ARE YOU KIDDING? STOCKINGS ARE FOR NERDS – ARCH USERS – AND ONE CERTAIN FALLEN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN. NEWPORTS AND SHITTY INSTANT COFFEE ARE THE GENTOO PREREQUISITES.

I CHANGED MY MIND THEY NEED TO DO LFS