Of the Air (cele/celes)

pronouns: cele/celes

Plural. Trans{gender and species}.

We don’t identify as human, thank you!

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  • We’re kind of an odd case, maybe? We aren’t sure but we didn’t really enjoy sex or masturbation before HRT either, partially due to demisexuality, partially due to expectations and gender roles, partially because we didn’t really know what we liked and to some degree we still don’t. We also either never had orgasms or considered them pretty bad: “this is it?!”

    We are less and less interested in ‘content’: porn, erotica etc (though whether we ever really were interested or not is debatable). Our fantasies have shifted though whether this is because we’re interested in softer things now or what we’ve always wanted and only now admitted it to ourselves, we aren’t sure.

    We cried from being unable to do anything about it the other week and how much connection we need before we could even consider doing something so intimate with someone else, so there’s probably also some emotional effects from hormones going on.

    We also get anxiety and dysphoria from wanting things but not being able to get them met and from having the genitals we have, but they were probably both there to some degree before HRT too, might be stronger now, we don’t know.

    However, if you just mean the physical effects well, we don’t ejaculate any more (at least not when doing things to ourselves, or perhaps from physical touch alone), we get hot sometimes when we ‘finish’ though ‘finishing’ is hard to reach most of the time. We didn’t really experience random erections much before HRT and definitely don’t now, so yeah. We don’t really know what an orgasm would be like or if we’ll ever get there but we might one day, if not well, either we’ll have to shift what we want or just somehow be okay with never having them again or accept they were and always will be shit.

    Anything else you’d like to know?






  • Ah, as far as we know we don’t have ADHD, ‘just’ autism. Yeah, that seems like a likely outcome and way of coping with lower dopamine levels and we are glad it works for you.

    We don’t think toys etc alone would work, because at least one of us, we suspect all of us are demisexual and so having satisfying stuff is more about emotional connection and long slow sessions, it’s what we’ve always wanted, we think and most we’ve come across are not like that as far as we know. We also have no idea how to do that with ourselves and as we’ve grown into ourselves and been more honest we’ve learned that most images, videos and stories out there don’t really work for us, most it does is make us want to do things with others, since we don’t really know how to with ourselves and maybe based on our sexuality it isn’t possible, or at least not easy.

    We appreciate that, if we think of anything we’ll let you know.



  • We guess we mean that, though we don’t know if we ever have experienced one really so difficult to say. When this body was mostly T based it wasn’t ever any good either, just a temporary reprieve, it wasn’t ever satisfying.

    We could try, we suppose, but we don’t think so, there’s some component missing from doing things to this body and we aren’t sure what it is, even with toys we suspect.

    We’ll go have a look if there’s anything good online to purchase, but we don’t think physical sensations are going to be enough alone.

    Mostly we just want to know if any other folks have or are experiencing this. We feel very alone in this and it seems it isn’t talked about anywhere.




  • Thanks!

    Our E seemed pretty high before (on 200mcg daily) so we’re guessing the bioavaliability was fine but perhaps.

    We can maybe get sublingual, but injections are out of the question as one of us has a fear of needles so couldn’t do it ourselves and the one GP surgery we’re legally allowed to go to, (we have weird rules in the UK) are pretty useless in this area because they have no easy way to be contacted and when they are they keep wanting information and so we send them the information via the one email address they are allowed to be contacted via (this GP surgery is really bad for communication) and then they ask us to physically bring in the information we have already sent them and we don’t understand why. Family are somewhat transphobic, so we doubt they’d help and we don’t really have friends we could see regularly enough.

    Gender GP which is a business are the only effective way for us to get all the hormones we need at the moment but as we said, they are pretty bad at communicating, hopefully the GIC (Gender Identity Clinic) contacts us but they’re overworked and have a longgggggg waiting list, so not much of a chance there, the only other thing we could do is go DIY but as might be seen from our post we need someone to liase with and to keep us safe since we don’t know how to interpret the results ourselves.

    We really appreciate the information though.

    We could try talking to the local doctors again but considering how they soft ignore our requests (they talk to us and then do nothing with the information we give them) we don’t hold out much hope.