It’s not that simple.

Here’s an example: Amazon could outfit all of their delivery vehicles with open wifi networks. Every Alexa device calls home when a truck drives by.

Here’s another: you may have a guest wifi, or your neighbor, or their neighbor. All it needs is one.

Yeah of course there are solutions to faraday cage it away from the world. But all they need is one connection. You have to stop it forever.

Literal strawman nonsense, look at this man go. I think you should understand that America is attempting to erode a woman’s right to vote. That’s what I’m saying. That all these people that think America should continue down the path of abandoning modern democracy should look into Americas past and understand the points in time in which it has championed for rights.

Thats the way you use that word. You’re literally admitting you’re ESL and can’t use English as well as I can. You’ve built a massive strawman on this simple fact. Other commentors can see my point. You can’t. Sorry.

Like I actually can’t believe you’ve built this massive of a strawman, it’s incredible. All because you don’t know the definition of a word. That’s literally all you go back to, as well. Nothing else I say matters. You just masturbate to your strawman, Mr Fin.

See this guy understands what I’m saying.

To say that America is “number 1” is not what I was saying, it was that at the heart of the American governmental systems lies a true socialist foundation. That’s why it’s been hammered for so long, because it’s what should have propelled America into the 21st century.

You’re right, the phrasing is generous. I mean even 100 years ago, it’d be far more about championing white rights. If reconstruction went better… but that’s my point. I think we have differing definitions of the word “championing”. It does not mean to be the best, but rather the support for exists. And America has been pushing for these ideals. In comparison to so some other country, that isnt inundated with capitalist cowboys and slave stories — sure, nice. Even some countries that have those were able to. But still, those in America have championed for social rights, and fundamental programs exist that prove that. You just think it means “best in the world”, and after watching all the Olympics, I forgive you.

I also said a century. I mean when was Social Security setup in your country? I don’t think you understand the ideological war being fought in America.

So you just downvote me, because you didn’t quite understand.

Brother, I’m happy the government of Finland is strong in the face of Russian fascists. But Republicans are not. And in America today, waving around John Oliver clips about “how obviously America is trash for 18 reasons” only exists to destroy a narrative with Trumpian citizens — those same citizens that wish to use their voting power to demolish the institution. They already have SCOTUS. Technically, they’ve already won the election.

I still believe that fits the definition:

1. An economic doctrine that opposes governmental regulation of or interference in commerce beyond the minimum necessary for a free-enterprise system to operate according to its own economic laws.

I add the highlighting to point out that in order for a society to stay fair, it must be regulated. If they believe that a free market should be everlasting, they should also believe that enabling the capitalist overclass would be detrimental to that goal. They tend to vote, however, for that same overclass that seeks to destroy the balance, and destroy any semblance of a “laissez-faire” market.

Like, an example. Trump says he wants to add a 10-20% tariff on all imports. Is that a “laissez-faire” government? However, if you explained to these people, without Fox News, what that meant… rhey’d clearly say it was some planned-economy Argentine shit.

You’ve never heard of Social Security? I personally think it’s important to highlight the fundamental pieces of government that already work using systems people could classify as “socialist”. You pay in. You get you cut. The government uses everyones money as leverage.

The context, is the current population is quite literally on the precipice of throwing out modern liberal democracy all together.

I agree, of course, there are many other components to being human in America that the government isn’t properly established to deal with. But people who already hate the idea of socialism, they should understand that America grew to what it is, what it was, in part because of those policies.

It’s also a much better story to wrap yourself in than WW2 dominance and trickle-down horse-shit, and the ever-constant reminder of failed reconstruction and native demolition. America came together once, in the darkness of the Depression, to build a foundation. The last several generations, even those that existed when these programs were established, have existed to destroy and steal and gut. But Reagan told us all it was the government’s fault, and in the golden hue of the 1980s, who the fuck needed Social Security? It was those same government programs that saved Americas cities, that built Americas roads. Many of the tracks may be gone, but they’ve all been replaced with internet cables — similarly a public enterprise.

America is not a socialist country, it’s constitution needs rewritten. But so much of what makes America what it is, what Americans understand America to be, is solely because of social liberalism. And all of these people that are voting Trump, they should understand that. Because Trump literally stands for demolishing all of it.

I’ve provided more than enough information. It’s what happened dude. I wasn’t some floor worker. I was effectively at Director level. They don’t take kindly to consistently bending the company’s will, and you push back too many times they tell you to get lost

What? You’re an idiot because most companies retain the right to tell you to get off the property. They give you enough “strikes”, it doesn’t matter what you do. Also why they give severance, so I don’t try and make a deal about employment or “rights”.

And how much, and how many people, and how much of a distraction… sometimes its worth just paying us off. I mean it isnt like they want it to get out of hand

I agree, in that most MAGA don’t really believe in much of anything, if a belief must stand a rigorous showing of competence. However, America has been a country championing socialist policy for almost 100 years. Even those spouting Trumpian garbage believe in liberalism. They just have labels and made-up feelings provided to them by the capitalist overclass, convincing them to destroy themselves.

You’re actually an idiot, I was fired a month ago for complaining amongst the company about their inoffice policy. Got a good severance, but they absolutely fired me for speaking my opinion

What disgusts me most about conservative voters and capitalists is most of them are so ignorant to admit that capitalism requires balance by virtue. You cannot exist in an environment where everyone is free to have money and buy things with that money and there will always ben enough supply for demand without serious guardrails to ensure it. What MAGA stands for is the idea that capitalism should be highly regulated, highly balanced, and highly fair. These people believe that to their core. They just… don’t vote that way. They’re so arrogant, so propagandized, they’ll continue to vote for the people that wish to continue destabilizing the balance.