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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to europe@hexbear.netEnglish · 21 days ago

Police in UK can now take women's phones and check their period tracking app

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Police in UK can now take women's phones and check their period tracking app

www.tyla.com

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to europe@hexbear.netEnglish · 21 days ago
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Several women's health and safety organisations have spoken out against the 'shocking' new guidance, vowing to 'aggressively challenge' it
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  • sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    Why is UK just deciding to become even shittier for no reason. Do they actually have prolifers there like we do in the US?

    • whatdoiputhere12 [any, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      astronaut-1 always has been shit, i’d say the shitiness just flies under the radar

    • TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml
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      We do, not like you do, but they’re definitely here…mostly in religious communities I’d say.

  • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    “Oi! You got a loicense for that period?”

  • AernaLingus [any]@hexbear.net
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    Source seemed sketchy so I was skeptical, but the story is real jesus-christ

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/police-seize-digital-devices-women-miscarry-v28tmfg0z

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wgqxl0ywjo

    Here’s the actual NPCC document:

    https://library.college.police.uk/docs/NPCC/Practice-advice-child-death-investigation-2024.pdf

  • PaulSmackage [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Out of all things, why

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      The upper class anglo drive to be a complete freak pervert about controlling and monitoring people’s bodily functions against their will

      • PaulSmackage [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Time for state sanctioned toilet cameras. Chuck Berry was a pioneer.

    • waluigiblunts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      They’re doing it to check if people had unauthorized abortions, because abortion is illegal in the UK

      • corvidenjoyer [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        In England and Wales, abortion remains a criminal offence unless carried out under specific legal circumstances.

        How Illegal are we talking about?

        • Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
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          i think there’s a time limit.

          but my ex had done some in the UK without any issues. just a couple NHS appointments

  • Ithorian [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    What the absolute fuck?!

    • Sulvy [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      And why the fuck???

      • waluigiblunts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        They’re doing it to check if people had unauthorized abortions, because abortion is illegal in the UK

        • TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml
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          Not illegal as such…

  • hankthetankie [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Yet another example of why proper security precautions should be taken by everyone. Cops tried to get in my phone and sim but gave up quite quickly. How many uses simlock pin for example?

    There are Foss menstrual tracking apps as well. People just need to actually know about them and take steps to change the habits of sharing everything with big tech/ad

    • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      In the UK if they give you a RIPA section 49 notice they can compel you to give passwords. If you don’t comply it’s imprisonable up to 2 years.

      • hankthetankie [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        I have a bad memory. Also a distress password that will wipe my phone if entered

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          Yeah these are not excuses that fly with the british courts. You will still go to prison, and they might slap destruction of evidence or obstruction on top.

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            Lol. Nah. Feel free to provide some info on that if you wish. Law can’t get what they don’t know I don’t know. If I would be in the position of facing that, I would just give them my duress password. Not even a fancy NSA computer and 1000 techies wouldn’t be able to prove that it was a duress password, let alone recover anything

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              They can and will send you to prison if they ask you for the passwords to a machine and you claim to have forgotten it. This will be determined by a jury though and how they react to that is going to be different depending on whether we’re talking about a phone you use every day or a machine that’s been sitting in your garage for 10 years. Prosecution will use your behaviour throughout the rest of the interactions you’ve had with them as a significant part of painting you as lying and concealing the password.

              “RIPA section 49” is key phrase you need if you want to look into this.

              https://www.oblaw.co.uk/being-served-with-a-s49-ripa-notice/

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                Yes I did the googling , still a duress password would easily get me off there. But good to know about it if I ever go to the UK :)

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    Check their fuckin WHAT!?! Huh?

    • waluigiblunts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      They’re doing it to check if people had unauthorized abortions, because abortion is illegal in the UK

  • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    While one comrade brought up abortions I can’t help but think this will somehow be used against trans women

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    True, but the UK is just about to vote on a new bill decriminalising it up to 24 weeks, without doctors approval needed.

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