Never claimed “winning” (in that sense) mattered, only that we can show facts don’t support a fool’s conclusion (ie, “show they’re a fool”).
Whether others care to recognize that or let themselves get misled by invalid rhetoric is up to them: some have better discernment than others.
Upholding facts (or logic & truth) so others can accept them when they’re ready (not to indulge their biases) is “winning” enough to me.
Humans still gonna human.
Never claimed “winning” (in that sense) mattered, only that we can show facts don’t support a fool’s conclusion (ie, “show they’re a fool”). Whether others care to recognize that or let themselves get misled by invalid rhetoric is up to them: some have better discernment than others. Upholding facts (or logic & truth) so others can accept them when they’re ready (not to indulge their biases) is “winning” enough to me. Humans still gonna human.