• BeBopALouie@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    My fucking brain is so fried.

    Both my parents were in World War II. They fought against fascism. I was brought up to feel for what happened to the Jews during that war. Now all I see is that they seem to be being worse than the actual Nazis.

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        11 hours ago

        I guess I am ignorant in that respect. When I was taught back in the 60’s it was taught as the Jewish people and all dissidents, disabled and whoever else the nazi’s wanted out of the way.

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          I said what I did because in today’s world the labeling matters between Jewish people and zionists. Not because of anything that happened in WWII, but rather because you can condemn what the people in Israel are doing in Palestine and it has nothing to do with their faith.

          However, there are people who will call you anti semetic for doing that and it’s just not true.

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      Israel =/= the “Jews”.

      Israel’s founders were actually very prejudiced against Jews that survived the holocaust. And much more against the ones that didn’t actually…

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        14 hours ago

        Louder for the people in the back!

        Zionists = religious nationalists / colonialists / fascists

        Anti-zionists = anti-all-of-the-above

        The Jewish ethnic/religious part is completely irrelevant. There are many thousands of non-jews who support Israel’s genocide, as evidenced by this batshit draconian illegitimate law. The UK/USA likely created Israel solely to destabilize the region and have an ally in the middle of the oil they needed. Within the next decade they then overthrew Irans democratically elected socialist leader because he wanted to expel British Petroleum and nationalise production (like Norway has been doing for decades).

        If you just hate jews you’re some flavor of fascist or religious nationalist, so no better than zionists or any of the criminals who created this mess.

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      I was brought up to feel for what happened to the Jews during that war.

      And neglected to mention that it wasn’t just jews but anyone the nazis didn’t like, such as gays, communists, other races, etc.

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      1 day ago

      Yeah, nah.

      The only people who win when you conflate Israel with all Jewish people are Zionists and Neo-Nazis.

    • John Richard@lemmy.world
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      What Israel is doing is very much Nazi like. But saying such will get you banned on Mastodon.social, and probably prosecuted in places like Germany.