It has been red tory v. blue tory since Blair took leadership in '93/'94.
It is more of less the same as the US (where it was red v blue republicans for a few decades and is now Republicans calling themselves ‘Democrats’ v. Christian Nationalist Fascists).
It is the natural continuation of Reaganite/Thatcherite neo-liberal capitalist ideology.
The outcome for the UK will be a lurch right as the poor vote for parties (Reform) who have used the immigration (that has caused serious legitimate problems for poor communities that simply can’t afford to support the huge number of asylum seekers that have been dumped upon them) and other cultural issues of various legitimacy (imvho) that poor people have been coerced into finding important, as wedge issues.
Edit - obviously this lurch to the right is the opposite of what should happen but here we go. It is what fossil-fuel powered capitalists prefer to socialism and an egalitarian society any day.
Yes I foresaw Reforms rise during the election and discussed at length how it’s highly likely they will win the next one.
It’s incredible how they’re able to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes. There’s a flag on someone’s fence round the corner from me. A giant union flag with a reform banner underneath saying make Britain great again or something to that effect. A play on the words of Great Britain.
I feel like I need to deface it but like how a teacher would mark wrong work. They will not do anything of the sort. They’re liars, charlatans and grifters pretending to be about the people.
They will reform government alright, but not in the way the people would want or need.
I grew up in the 90s and to me everything was truly great until 2012. And then Nick Clegg personally fucked me over with university fees, and that’s when I realised the current political landscape isn’t for us. It’s just for them.
Yes let’s see. I expect the media - billionaire owned on one hand, bbc on the other - will do the kind of job on him they did when he was leader of the labour party. He will become mired in claims of antisemitism (whatever that means these days), and whatever else they can throw at him and it won’t go anywhere.
Capital drives the UK and capital does not want socialism. The media is in significant part crowd control.
They tried and succeeded with BS antisemitism.
while I generally have zero faith in people I think they might be conscious enough to grasp this over used excuse.
Besides that, it’s also not hard to see the Labours are/were not left these days.
I give them more credit than the hopeless US dems who eternally believe in their fake left party and think they can fix it.
Maybe they can link him to Russia, as bad as being antisemite these days.
BTW why do you say the BBC is ‘the other hand’.
They are just as bad and shamelessly pushing whatever the regime tells them.
It’s literally the purpose they were invented for.
I just meant the breadth of media coverage in the UK spans billionaire/Murdoch owned media on one side to the voice-piece of the British establishment itself, which is now little more than a proxy for the interests of capital, on the other.
As for the term ‘antisemitism’, well the Gazans being murdered by Israeli’s are semites too.
But given the Israelis are committing a genocide - starving children then shooting them as they queue up for food - I don’t think anybody really gives a fuck what Israelis or the people ultimately supporting the genocide in the UK media, or in UK political parties of every stripe, think about the people that oppose them. It is about being on one side of history or another.
It has been red tory v. blue tory since Blair took leadership in '93/'94.
It is more of less the same as the US (where it was red v blue republicans for a few decades and is now Republicans calling themselves ‘Democrats’ v. Christian Nationalist Fascists).
It is the natural continuation of Reaganite/Thatcherite neo-liberal capitalist ideology.
The outcome for the UK will be a lurch right as the poor vote for parties (Reform) who have used the immigration (that has caused serious legitimate problems for poor communities that simply can’t afford to support the huge number of asylum seekers that have been dumped upon them) and other cultural issues of various legitimacy (imvho) that poor people have been coerced into finding important, as wedge issues.
Edit - obviously this lurch to the right is the opposite of what should happen but here we go. It is what fossil-fuel powered capitalists prefer to socialism and an egalitarian society any day.
Yes I foresaw Reforms rise during the election and discussed at length how it’s highly likely they will win the next one.
It’s incredible how they’re able to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes. There’s a flag on someone’s fence round the corner from me. A giant union flag with a reform banner underneath saying make Britain great again or something to that effect. A play on the words of Great Britain.
I feel like I need to deface it but like how a teacher would mark wrong work. They will not do anything of the sort. They’re liars, charlatans and grifters pretending to be about the people.
They will reform government alright, but not in the way the people would want or need.
I grew up in the 90s and to me everything was truly great until 2012. And then Nick Clegg personally fucked me over with university fees, and that’s when I realised the current political landscape isn’t for us. It’s just for them.
I hear Corbyn is starting a party
Yes let’s see. I expect the media - billionaire owned on one hand, bbc on the other - will do the kind of job on him they did when he was leader of the labour party. He will become mired in claims of antisemitism (whatever that means these days), and whatever else they can throw at him and it won’t go anywhere.
Capital drives the UK and capital does not want socialism. The media is in significant part crowd control.
They tried and succeeded with BS antisemitism.
while I generally have zero faith in people I think they might be conscious enough to grasp this over used excuse.
Besides that, it’s also not hard to see the Labours are/were not left these days.
I give them more credit than the hopeless US dems who eternally believe in their fake left party and think they can fix it.
Maybe they can link him to Russia, as bad as being antisemite these days.
BTW why do you say the BBC is ‘the other hand’.
They are just as bad and shamelessly pushing whatever the regime tells them.
It’s literally the purpose they were invented for.
I just meant the breadth of media coverage in the UK spans billionaire/Murdoch owned media on one side to the voice-piece of the British establishment itself, which is now little more than a proxy for the interests of capital, on the other.
As for the term ‘antisemitism’, well the Gazans being murdered by Israeli’s are semites too.
But given the Israelis are committing a genocide - starving children then shooting them as they queue up for food - I don’t think anybody really gives a fuck what Israelis or the people ultimately supporting the genocide in the UK media, or in UK political parties of every stripe, think about the people that oppose them. It is about being on one side of history or another.
OK, and true