• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 day ago

    Yeah, they’re statistical word generators. There’s no intelligence. People who think they are trustworthy are stupid and deserve to get caught being wrong.

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      8 hours ago

      Emotion > Facts. Most people have been trained to blindly accept things and cheer on what fits with their agenda. Like technbro’s exaggerating LLMs, or people like you misrepresenting LLMs as mere statistical word generators without intelligence. That’s like saying a computer is just wires and switches, or missing the forest for the trees. Both is equally false.

      Yet if it fits with the emotional needs or with dogma, then other will agree. It’s a convenient and comforting “A vs B” worldview we’ve been trained to accept. And so the satisfying notion and misinformation keeps spreading.

      LLMs tell us more about human intelligence and the human slop we’ve been generating. It tells us that most people are not that much more than statistical word generators.

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        8 hours ago

        people like you misrepresenting LLMs as mere statistical word generators without intelligence.

        You’ve bought-in to the hype. I won’t try to argue with you because you aren’t cognizent of reality.

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      Ok what about tech journalists who produced articles with those misunderstandings. Surely they know better yet still produce articles like this. But also people who care enough about this topic to post these articles usually I assume know better yet still spread this crap

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        23 hours ago

        Check out Ed Zitron’s angry reporting on Tech journalists fawning over this garbage and reporting on it uncritically. He has a newsletter and a podcast.

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        Tech journalists don’t know a damn thing. They’re people that liked computers and could also bullshit an essay in college. That doesn’t make them an expert on anything.

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              that is such a ridiculous idea. Just because you see hate for it in the media doesn’t mean it originated there. I’ll have you know that i have embarrassed myself by screaming at robot phone receptionists for years now. stupid fuckers pretending to be people but not knowing shit. I was born ready to hate LLMs and I’m not gonna have you claim that CNN made me do it.

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                8 hours ago

                Search AI in Lemmy and check out every article on it. It definitely is media spreading all the hate. And like this article is often some money yellow journalism

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                  2 hours ago

                  all that proves is that lemmy users post those articles. you’re skirting around psychotic territory here, seeing patterns where there are none, reading between the lines to find the cover-up that you are already certain is there, with nothing to convince you otherwise.

                  if you want to be objective and rigorous about it, you’d have to start with looking at all media publications and comparing their relative bias.

                  then you’d have to consider their reasons for bias, because it could just be that things actually suck. (in other words, if only 90% of media reports that something sucks when 99% of humanity agrees it sucks, maybe that 90% is actually too low, not too high)

                  this is all way more complicated than media brainwashing.

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                  I think it’s lemmy users. I see a lot more LLM skepticism here than in the news feeds.

                  In my experience, LLMs are like the laziest, shittiest know-nothing bozo forced to complete a task with zero attention to detail and zero care about whether it’s crap, just doing enough to sound convincing.

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                    😆 I can’t believe how absolutely silly a lot of you sound with this.

                    LLM is a tool. It’s output is dependent on the input. If that’s the quality of answer you’re getting, then it’s a user error. I guarantee you that LLM answers for many problems are definitely adequate.

                    It’s like if a carpenter said the cabinets turned out shit because his hammer only produces crap.

                    Also another person commented that seen the pattern you also see means we’re psychotic.

                    All I’m trying to suggest is Lemmy is getting seriously manipulated by the media attitude towards LLMs and these comments I feel really highlight that.