• FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Some studies have shown work from home may eliminate the commute miles, but those miles are replaced with leisure and errands miles. So ultimately we still need transit to replace a lot of car trips cause be it work, grocceries, or a night out, people need to get places.

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      11 hours ago

      We need to pull all strings. I didn’t say people don’t need to get places. I just stated there are many cases where it’s not required. Corona has shown what we could do if we wanted.

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        10 hours ago

        In wonder if, in terms of logistics, delivery of groceries and online shopping could be a good thing.

        Of course not with instant-services like Flink. Of course not with single-use cardboard boxes and worker exploitation.

        More like the good old milkman. People order their groceries, and they are delivered in reusable boxes next day, old boxes picked up. Same with online shopping.

        Both is already a thing, but few do it. Maybe it would work much better if a huge percentage of people would do it, e. g. 15 % for grocery delivery. The grocery truck would not have to do more miles than if it would deliver to the current 1 % (guessed), just needs to be bigger and have more stops.

        In communities that are not built to live car-less, that might save many individual car trips.

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          10 hours ago

          People will come up with any solution so long as it still relies on roads. The parent comment to this thread is all about tire dust and this solution just replaces private tire dust with commercial tire dust. The system you propose would still be more complicated, energy and resource intensive than people just taking transit to the groccery store.

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        10 hours ago

        Corona isn’t a perfect example as many places had restricted capacity and hours. There was also a significant precentage of the population minimizing their exposure to the outside world. Yes we should encourage work from home but my point is it won’t be reducing car use nearly as much as it seems and even if everyone worked from home we still need alternatives to driving.

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          9 hours ago

          It is just one example. I think you and I might misunderstand each other a lot.