• aasatru@kbin.earth
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    8 hours ago

    Are you talking about chat control?

    It was rejected once, and will be rejected again. At least if people mobilize a bit against it. There’s a long way from Commission proposal to law.

    Equating the proposal of a law with the adaptation of it is highly misleading. The EU is a complex institution where different bodies are pulling in different directions.

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      7 hours ago

      I think they are talking about age verification for something like porn ^^'!

      For the chatcontrol thing, it’s only a matter of when and not if.

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        5 hours ago

        I would like to know which EU law it is they are takling about, aa they proclaim pretty boldly that the Union is adapting “similar Regulations”. I follow EU politics somewhat closely and I have no idea what they are talking about.

        The Commission has published some guidelines and recommendations, which are as legally binding as a fart.

        As for chat control: With that attitude, probably.

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          4 hours ago

          On EU age verification: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-age-verification

          As for chat control: With that attitude, probably.

          That attitude isn’t the problem.

          Look around on Lemmy. People are saying that the EU needs to enforce its law against Big Tech. It must protect its citizens. It’s about “our values”. Blah blah blah…

          When that happens, you immediately get age verification. Germany had a social media service called StudiVZ. It was forced to segregate minors to a separate service. American social media not doing that is an example of them not following our laws and our values (not mine, not sure whose).

          These big corpos make big money by enabling pedos to groom children. We need to hold them accountable and force them to stop that! Does that make sense? Well, now you have to make Big Tech read private messages to search for suspicious activity. There’s your chat control.

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            4 hours ago

            What exactly do you think a Commission blueprint is?

            It’s nothing but soft power and hardly even that, little more than just thinking out loud. It has no implications whatsoever unless member states decide they want to implement the ideas nationally, in which case it’s on them. The Commission cannot implement EU law unilaterally.

            As for chat contol, that’s about banning true encryption. Very different from regulating big tech.

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          4 hours ago

          To give you a concrete exemple, while it isn’t directly relates to EU laws, France enforced age verification for pornsite to protect the children !

          So it seems to me they are slowly, bit by bit, enforcing those stupid laws not EU wise, but country by country ^^!

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            4 hours ago

            Yeah, there’s no guarantees against stupidity in the member states. That’s easier to reverse than if it happens in an EU regulation.

            This kind of misinformation is why people get confused and vote for right wing eurosceptic parties, which ironically tends to be the parties most eager to strip people’s rights away.