This is positive and I’m glad they clarified this stance, even if it took them way too long.
Fucking liberals have already turned the /r/transgenderuk against the party, comments calling Corbyn a tankie get upvoted in there now everyday. I’ve had to stop checking the space entirely because the shit they spew in there is bad for mental health.
What’s the likelihood that it gets astroturfed? I’ve noticed a lot of the British subreddits are bizarrely brain-wormy and I can’t tell if that’s just really how the country is or if there’s an attempt to manipulate public opinion.
Oh there’s 100% liberal groups operating, just as there are conservative groups operating in the other subs. The tories have taken to acquiring the major subreddits through quiet takeovers though and slowly turning them further and further right wing over time. The liberals on the other hand are morons that believe in either posts, comment spam or making alternative subreddits that typically fail because they inadequately understand the platform.
That’s why I stopped visiting dedicated queer spaces on
entirely, because I just could not deal with the liberal brainrot anymore.it’s genuinely, in the real sense, radicalizing. you can be a doe-eyed social democrat who just wants to expand welfare programs and stop the mass liquidation of the entire working class, but if you don’t espouse blood and soil nationalism while you do it they will call you a tankie. there’s no way to win by playing their game.
What exactly do they see as the way out of the dire situation that’s happening there?
They just relentlessly push the Greens instead. No real strategy or belief that it will have better outcomes for trans people, just “it’s not tankies”.
I’m not exaggerating.
what has the uk green party achieved in over 40 years. jesus christ.
Well they did have an MP seat in Brighton for a very long time… Which happens to be best known as the lgbt town of the country. That may have something to do with the quantity of Green party nerds sticking their knives in and leading every discussion back towards them
whats going on with trans people in the uk? are they seriously stanning queer harmer
No, there’s been some controversy surrounding Corbyn and Sultana’s new party. Corbyn has been bringing certain people like Adnan Hussain on board for this new party, who has socially reactionary views (anti-queer, anti-abortion) and made transphobic statements. Corbyn and Sultana are pro-trans, but because of this controversy, many liberals in the UK trans community have already decided that this new party is going to be transphobic, even though it hasn’t launched yet.
I think Corbyn and Sultana have mishandled the moment tactically though. Which is kind of Corbyn’s biggest weakness, a lack of ruthlessness and his inability to act in the moment.
Lets say even if he didn’t care about trans rights (which I don’t beleive), right now trans rights (alongside Palestine/Gaza) in the UK are the space and the wedge to launch a new radical party. There’s energy and people who will rally around.
The minute Adnan Hussain said he thinks trans women are biological men, Corby and Sutana should have been standing together say “We appreciate and will continue to appreciate Adnan’s support on Palestine but he’s no longer a party member”. If the media is going to portray you as woke Stalin anyway, do woke Stalinism (positive).
The minute Adnan Hussain said he thinks trans women are biological men, Corby and Sutana should have been standing together say “We appreciate and will continue to appreciate Adnan’s support on Palestine but he’s no longer a party member”. If the media is going to portray you as woke Stalin anyway, do woke Stalinism (positive).
What you need to understand about Corbyn and some of the factions involved is that they are extreme believers in democracy, to a fault. They would see this move as fundamentally anti-democratic and it would have potential for some groups that want a democratic party to split from the project without first allowing it to fester into a problem that demonstrably can’t be ignored.
One of the problems in creating this party which caused it to languish in talks for years as just an idea, to my understanding, was the concerns people had that having Corbyn at the center of it made it undemocratic by default.
Oh yeah, I totally agree. I’ve said it before, but Corbyn has been one of the most consistent anti-war and anti-oppression politicians out there, and while his heart is definitely in the right place, his political instincts are pretty terrible.
There’s no specific post I’m referencing. There have been dozens in the last week or two.
no
So the party is likely to be disbanded by the government and their leadership arrested for not being transphobic enough now, if I understand UK politics correctly.
Your Party has been classified as a terrorist hate group for not being sufficiently transphobic.
I just wanna say Zarah Sultana is a fucking banger name honestly
I’m still slightly baffled how vibes based they are being, they can fall to tailism so hard. Where are non-negotiables or party program?
I can think of a space for transphobia.
It’s literally space. (Good luck breathing in space, transphobes.)
Let’s not corrupt the one place that hasn’t been corrupted by transphobia.
sounds expensive, a pit or the sea are cheaper
The sea doesn’t need any more trash in it, just march em to a landfill
Is this the weapon that Mossad is gonna use to destroy Corbyn’s new party?
