I would say, finally, in an era of bitter political struggle even in the free software world, finally we see a good humoured hacker joke again

  • Donaldist@feddit.orgOP
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    1 天前

    Well, as far as i have observed this (from safe distance, far, far away…) Andreas Kling rejected a proposal from a new contributor to change documentation to use gender neutral terms… and as usual with those things, people tend to get mad.

    Edit: A simple to the people downvoting: Why?

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      Kling has promoted the nonsense white replacement conspiracy theory, whined about “leftist activists”.

      The answer is because just a tiny bit of looking at kling - just like with DHH - will reveal so much more far-right attitude and behavior beyond kling rejecting an offer to fix the poorly written documentation.

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        Kling has promoted the nonsense white replacement conspiracy theory

        This is news to me. I’ll look into them saying that and change how I talk about this event. Because before knowing this I would’ve described it similarly as the other person. But yeah, any grace I was willing to extend goes away if they’re parroting white replacement.

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        I am not involved in the Ladybird project, do not really follow the development or the community thereof in any close fashion, so i do not want to take any sides here. What i can say for sure after spending ~ 30 years online is, that the net often amplifies drama beyond any rational measure… so, until i find the time and energy to look into that (unlikely) i will stay with a neutral “oookay…”

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          As someone who has been online since the late 80’s (BBS) and early 90’s (internet), I’m well aware of how things can be amplified.

          However, this does not require in-depth review. These are things you can discover with a cursory search that would have taken less time than writing that comment, FYI. I don’t think anyone is sitting here suggesting Kling has grand plans for a gassing center, just that he promotes far right conspiracy theories and other hard-right ideology. This is a simple, easily verifiable statement.

          i will stay with a neutral “oookay….”

          Just so you know, this can come across condescending. I’m not going to say that was your intention, but that is absolutely how it would be read.

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            Just so you know, this can come across condescending. I’m not going to say that was your intention, but that is absolutely how it would be read.

            Just to clarify: It is not meant that way, it is meant as an “Okay, i understand what you say but i will take anything i read online with a truckload of salt - no offense”

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      Lmao there’s actually something kind of hilarious about a person trying to push gender neutral terms into documentation for a program called “Ladybird”.

      Did they want the project to be renamed to “Lady/Man/Thembird” too? /S

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          For some, sure. For me, no… I genuinely feel bad for anybody who’s head is so far up their ass that they fail to see the humour around the irony here.

          I am also genuinely confused as to how there can be documentation for a web browser that has gendered terms in it in the first place… Aside from the browser name, what other gendered terms would there be?

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            For example developers or users could be referred to with a default male pronoun (if the user wants … he can …) when, and that might surprise you, women and queer people do exist and might even use browsers or develop software. There’s no need to be exclusive.

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              Why would it surprise me in even the slightest? It surprises me that people would default to a specific gender when all there is to go by is a username - I would expect they/them/[username] to be the typical reference.

              What surprises me more is how judgmental and hostile people are here in the absolutely horrible assumptions they’re making about me, because of a very obviously sarcastic remark I made about changing the only thing I could think of having a gendered term to a gender neutral term in the documentation for an application… My bad for mistaking “documentation” for manpages, and for somehow thinking a thread about Ladybird would be about the project’s previous name and a myriad of other projects. How foolish of me not to be psychic in a thread calling out people for trying to be psychics in commits and code comments, right?