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    That’s mostly the first chapter, genesis, the begat this stuff.

    But then, don’t discount the chapter where the twelve Jewish tribes send their gifts to Moses (iirc), and the full account of the lavish gifts is given, per each tribe. I’ve read through the whole thing to confirm the madness that the list is identical for each tribe, and is repeated twelve times.

    I’d like someone in a US church choose that chapter for their Sunday reading of the Bible, and then see the faces of the congregation sitting through it.

    Whoever wrote those books, didn’t have much consideration for the reader.

    graphic novel of Genesis where he communicates the emotions through his drawings of what the words are trying to communicate

    I have a long-standing dream of someone just adapting the Bible to the screen exactly as it’s written — at least the first parts up to and including Moses’ wanderings. I have a feeling that a direct retelling would cause more than a few butts to be hurt.

    Pasolini, an atheist and communist, came close in the approach with ‘The Gospel According to St. Matthew’, but the result is a rather romantic vision of the life of Jesus, perhaps dictated by both the chosen source material and Pasolini’s ‘nostalgia for belief’.

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      I’d like someone in a US church choose that chapter for their Sunday reading of the Bible, and then see the faces of the congregation sitting through it.

      Not in the USA, but I’ve heard some pretty interesting sermons on the topic. Generally about prophecies and how the ancient Israelites viewed certain numbers

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      Pasolini, an atheist and communist, came close in the approach with ‘The Gospel According to St. Matthew’, but the result is a rather romantic vision of the life of Jesus, perhaps dictated by both the chosen source material and Pasolini’s ‘nostalgia for belief’.

      As a former Christian and current socialist, it makes sense for socialists/communists to have a romantic view of the life of Jesus. It’s the one part of my old beliefs that I can’t let go of, since it shaped the values that I have now. The values that Jesus preached are often the same values that lead people to socialism/communism.

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      Whoever wrote those books, didn’t have much consideration for the reader.

      Sizable chunks of the Old Testament were documentation, rather than formatted with the intent of being engaging. It’s like how a family bible often has genealogy hand-written inside it, except it’s the contents of the book itself.

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      A direct retelling wouldn’t be allowed to air. Murdering your wife in Christ’s name for not cooking you dinner, divinely owning slaves as an entitled Christian, lobster sending you to christian hell; the production wouldn’t get very far.

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            When did someone murder their wife in Christ’s name for not cooking you dinner

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              Love that you’re like “we all know shrimp sends you to christian hell, but wife discipline? Seems farfetched!”

              Corinthians, ephesians, most books of the Bible reiterate that women must submit to their husbands:

              “Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.”

              And to not submit to their husbands is to go against God.

              “But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.”

              And guess what happens if your husband asks you for dinner and you say no?

              “So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.”

              Eve’s decision to prioritize her own desires over God’s instructions led to disastrous consequence including physical death and eternal obeisance.

              “Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you.”

              “Genesis 2:18-24 “And the lord god said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him”

              Christian women are servants to men, and if they defy men, they defy god. Through all of every version of the bible, the Christian punishment for defiance is death.

              Why?

              “For the wages of sin is death”.

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                Before I address your insane cherry-picking, where did you get the whole “murder your wife in the name of christ for not cooking dinner” from.

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                  your bible is a cherry tree.

                  I was worried there were too many quotes for you and removed a few, but I’ll simplify it further:

                  Women must obey every desire of their husband, according to the word of god(cooking dinner, for example). Disobeying the word of god is punishable by death.

                  1, 2.

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                    your bible is a cherry tree.

                    No, it’s not. In fact, verse numbers weren’t a thing until a few centuries ago.

                    I would say that you have done one of the worst jobs of biblical interpretation I have ever seen, but if you, for whatever reason, think that it’s just a random assortment of verses, then it’s understandable why your take was so bad. So I’ll pose and answer two questions.

                    1. Who carries out the punishment of death?

                    2. What is God’s instruction to the husband?

                    These are questions which are only answerable if you don’t use the Bible like it’s a cherry tree.

                    1. The punishment of death is carried out by God. Who are sinners? The same writing that says “the punishment for sin is death” says “all have sinned”. What that means is the reason we die is BECAUSE of sin, so God punishes us with death.

                    2. If you kept reading on in what you originally quoted, you would have seen a much greater burden put on the Husband.

                    Ephesians 5:25

                    Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

                    Christ is God. So husbands must somehow try and love their wives with perfect love. This is the same God who keeps forgiving even the worst sins, and died in a horrific manner in order to save them. So husbands are expected to die for their wives. And taking the bullet is the easy bit- you may need to die to your own desires or preferences in order to show love to your wife. Maybe you were saving some money to go to a sports game with your mates, but your wife really wants a nice date. To die to yourself would be to use that money to go on a nice date with your wife.