I don’t think you can speak for all vegans. It’s a diet, not a religion.
From the Wikipedia page: “People who follow a vegan diet for the benefits to the environment, their health or for religion are regularly also described as vegans.”
Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named or described by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like veganism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing.
The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used
You interpreted this to mean that “how [you] may feel that they should be used” is more correct than “how words are (or have been) actually used.” That’s on you, dude.
Just because you can’t be mollified or persuaded doesn’t mean you’re correct; otherwise maga would be the champions of debate.
I did. I don’t think you did properly. You missed the part where it says “ethical Veganism” at the beginning of the second paragraph. You’re describing ethical Veganism, but the term Veganism can be used by many more people. To use your example, TERFs are feminists, but not all feminists are TERFs.
I don’t think you can speak for all vegans. It’s a diet, not a religion.
From the Wikipedia page: “People who follow a vegan diet for the benefits to the environment, their health or for religion are regularly also described as vegans.”
it’s neither a diet nor a religion. it’s a philosophy and way of living
Diet:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diet
Veganism is, by definition, a diet. It just happens to (often) be based on a philosophy by the same name.
You wouldn’t say “pragmatism isn’t an approach to problem solving! It’s a philosophy!” It’s both.
Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named or described by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like veganism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing.
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marriam webster
“Dictionaries don’t give the correct definition of words; how I feel a word should exclusively be used is what ultimately matters” -commie
I quoted the same lexicographer you did.
If you quote something without properly annotating it in an academic setting, it can be considered plagiarism.
You used nothing to indicate that that block of text was actually a quotation.
this is a forum and I linked to the source
I’ll make this simple for you. In standard English, quotations are normally annotated like this:
“Quote.”
On forums, there is an additional way of annotating quotations and it looks like this:
You did neither.
this is a strawman. prima facie bad faith
Not at all.
You interpreted this to mean that “how [you] may feel that they should be used” is more correct than “how words are (or have been) actually used.” That’s on you, dude.
Just because you can’t be mollified or persuaded doesn’t mean you’re correct; otherwise maga would be the champions of debate.
no. I didn’t.
That’s exactly what happened, and any other explanation renders that quote irrelevant to the discussion.
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I did. I don’t think you did properly. You missed the part where it says “ethical Veganism” at the beginning of the second paragraph. You’re describing ethical Veganism, but the term Veganism can be used by many more people. To use your example, TERFs are feminists, but not all feminists are TERFs.