That has got to be fake, even in The USA.
If it is real & I am still not sure, then-
It is illegal & cannot be enforced in The USA.
They just do not want to pay out what it would cost to make it safe to do so.
I would simply do it, if anyone arrested me, I would sue over that.
Whether I was arrested or not, I would sue of not maintaining a safe environment.
They built the stadium surrounded by highways and off ramps without any sidewalks and hardly any traffic signals. It is encapsulated by unwalkable roads.
It’s not just that, there’s literally NOWHERE to walk. Imagine 100k people exiting the place at once, on foot, surrounded by the spaghetti junction hellscape of the NJ Turnpike and nowhere to walk?
It’s a disaster waiting to happen.
Honestly, just a shitty location in the first place.
I’m gonna be the odd one out here and say that route is hardly unwalkable, and with some minor changes could even be somewhat safe compared to the walk I make to work everyday. I went down the entire route road by road in street view, you’ll be hugging the shoulder in spots, walking in grass and cutting across the road a few times, but you can manage it.
It could be made safe, but it isn’t currently safe (especially considering the shoulders are probably still snowbanks). More importantly, it is illegal because it isn’t safe and scraping up pedestrian smears off the highway is traumatic for the people thay have to do it. It was made illegal instead of being made safe.
I’ll also point out that this circuitous route is estimated to take an hour while in a car it takes 3 minutes. If they put in a sidewalk, a traffic light, and a crosswalk, you could walk from that hotel to the stadium and beat anyone driving because they still have to park. But that’s just that one hotel. I would bet money that if you made the area walkable, you would see more hotels and parking lots pop up.
So, the law as written quoted in the original post, atleast to me and I’m not a lawyer or anything, doesn’t seem to imply that it would actually be illegal. Police might still charge you (because they’re scumbags), but I’m willing to bet its something that a judge would throw out.
Maybe you’re right, but I’d be more concerned with being hit by a car. The fact that it is “illegal” at a minimum means that cars won’t expect pedestrians, and I’m less concerned about having the right of way than I am about discovering the coefficient of friction for asphalt first-hand.
39:4-34. Pedestrians to cross within crosswalk or at right angles; facing traffic; sidewalks Where traffic is not controlled and directed either by a police officer or a traffic control signal, pedestrians shall cross the roadway within a crosswalk or, in the absence of a crosswalk, and where not otherwise prohibited, at right angles to the roadway. It shall be unlawful for a pedestrian to cross any highway having roadways separated by a medial barrier, except where provision is made for pedestrian crossing. On all highways where there are no sidewalks or paths provided for pedestrian use, pedestrians shall, when practicable, walk only on the extreme left side of the roadway or its shoulder facing approaching traffic. Where sidewalks are provided it shall be unlawful for any pedestrian to walk along and upon an adjacent roadway.
I’m having a hard time seeing how you would walk to it. It’s surrounded by 4 lane, controlled access roads, a railroad track, and one of the most polluted swamps on earth.
They probably have been sued over and it doesn’t affect them enough to care. And I can assure you, this kind of shit is very real. In fact I’ve taken the train and walked the final few miles to this very venue before. Can confirm, a decent chunk of the walk was balancing on a 1-foot wide curb at the edge of a highway bridge.
Based on what I know, I doubt there’s been any lawsuits. But you should have taken the 703, since it sounds like you last went there before they put in that train extension.
No, it is not under The USA, like I already posted take as far as it needs to go.
Of course I should have thought of this first,
People in mass, that are working-attending a event in the stadium, should simply ignore the sign & law & do the walk. Then like I said before, get arrested if have to & mass filings for tons of trials, as far as it will go, to erase that part of the law. If in mass tons of people are doing this & are not arrested, then the law is unenforceable.
The problem isn’t that you aren’t allowed to. The problem is that they made literally zero accommodations for pedestrians to navigate the area.
A protest that walks the route that should exist anyway and shuts down the roads is a good idea. But it can still be illegal. People are arrested all the time for doing illegal shit while protesting. They don’t use an “all or nothing” system from prosecution. They’ll arrest and charge dozens of people in a protest with hundreds or thousands.
I’m telling you this as a local: that’s not going to work. It’s not about making the government uncomfortable. The government are ambivalent.
It’s twofold: East Rutherford, in majority, are NIMBYs when it comes to this issue. The residents don’t want people walking to the stadium through their town. And just as important, the owners and operators of the Meadowlands make a huge amount of their money off the parking. It’s private property, and they don’t want people coming in without paying.
That thinking of giving away the people power, because people like you give-up is the problem. SORRY, I SHOULD NOT MADE IT A PERSONAL BEFORE.
It absolutely works, there is no way in BLANK politicians & media can ignore all of that happening, heck using The Internet, it is questionable if traditional media is even needed. If people just put-up with it, not will never ever change, except the people.
It will not work in this area, it is a huge busy road with constant traffic. You will get run over. If you bring a big crowd, you will cause a traffic jam as intended, but at the cost of a bunch of pedestrian lives. Is it worth dying for that? If you don’t want to drive, there are buses and trains that go there.
When the people make those in power uncomfortable, yes I do.
Look at what has very recently happened with no real political resistance ‘The Crazy Don’s & his administration’s ‘Mob Enforcers’?
That has got to be fake, even in The USA. If it is real & I am still not sure, then-
It is illegal & cannot be enforced in The USA. They just do not want to pay out what it would cost to make it safe to do so.
I would simply do it, if anyone arrested me, I would sue over that.
Whether I was arrested or not, I would sue of not maintaining a safe environment.
They built the stadium surrounded by highways and off ramps without any sidewalks and hardly any traffic signals. It is encapsulated by unwalkable roads.
Here is what Google Maps suggests for walking.
and this is absolutely intentional, because parking fees are a huge piece of their pie.
It’s not just that, there’s literally NOWHERE to walk. Imagine 100k people exiting the place at once, on foot, surrounded by the spaghetti junction hellscape of the NJ Turnpike and nowhere to walk?
It’s a disaster waiting to happen.
Honestly, just a shitty location in the first place.
Bingo, thanks for that,
I’m gonna be the odd one out here and say that route is hardly unwalkable, and with some minor changes could even be somewhat safe compared to the walk I make to work everyday. I went down the entire route road by road in street view, you’ll be hugging the shoulder in spots, walking in grass and cutting across the road a few times, but you can manage it.
It could be made safe, but it isn’t currently safe (especially considering the shoulders are probably still snowbanks). More importantly, it is illegal because it isn’t safe and scraping up pedestrian smears off the highway is traumatic for the people thay have to do it. It was made illegal instead of being made safe.
I’ll also point out that this circuitous route is estimated to take an hour while in a car it takes 3 minutes. If they put in a sidewalk, a traffic light, and a crosswalk, you could walk from that hotel to the stadium and beat anyone driving because they still have to park. But that’s just that one hotel. I would bet money that if you made the area walkable, you would see more hotels and parking lots pop up.
So, the law as written quoted in the original post, atleast to me and I’m not a lawyer or anything, doesn’t seem to imply that it would actually be illegal. Police might still charge you (because they’re scumbags), but I’m willing to bet its something that a judge would throw out.
Maybe you’re right, but I’d be more concerned with being hit by a car. The fact that it is “illegal” at a minimum means that cars won’t expect pedestrians, and I’m less concerned about having the right of way than I am about discovering the coefficient of friction for asphalt first-hand.
Fair.
This is the cited statute:
Basically how it works everywhere, the statute here literally says you can walk on the extreme left side. Cops are wrong.
Then more than just suing, you take as far as necessary in courts over the law. The law is just not legal.
IHere it is on maps
I’m having a hard time seeing how you would walk to it. It’s surrounded by 4 lane, controlled access roads, a railroad track, and one of the most polluted swamps on earth.
They probably have been sued over and it doesn’t affect them enough to care. And I can assure you, this kind of shit is very real. In fact I’ve taken the train and walked the final few miles to this very venue before. Can confirm, a decent chunk of the walk was balancing on a 1-foot wide curb at the edge of a highway bridge.
Based on what I know, I doubt there’s been any lawsuits. But you should have taken the 703, since it sounds like you last went there before they put in that train extension.
Probably is far from what has happened,
Since KoboldCoterie posted the law, I would do what is in my replying post to KoboldCoterie‘s post of the law.
It’s 100% real, and it’s 100% legal. It’s New Jersey.
No, it is not under The USA, like I already posted take as far as it needs to go.
Of course I should have thought of this first,
People in mass, that are working-attending a event in the stadium, should simply ignore the sign & law & do the walk. Then like I said before, get arrested if have to & mass filings for tons of trials, as far as it will go, to erase that part of the law. If in mass tons of people are doing this & are not arrested, then the law is unenforceable.
The problem isn’t that you aren’t allowed to. The problem is that they made literally zero accommodations for pedestrians to navigate the area.
A protest that walks the route that should exist anyway and shuts down the roads is a good idea. But it can still be illegal. People are arrested all the time for doing illegal shit while protesting. They don’t use an “all or nothing” system from prosecution. They’ll arrest and charge dozens of people in a protest with hundreds or thousands.
That is how you pedestrian pathways. You are not gong to get it, by not making the politicians uncomfortable.
You are not reading my reply.
I’m telling you this as a local: that’s not going to work. It’s not about making the government uncomfortable. The government are ambivalent.
It’s twofold: East Rutherford, in majority, are NIMBYs when it comes to this issue. The residents don’t want people walking to the stadium through their town. And just as important, the owners and operators of the Meadowlands make a huge amount of their money off the parking. It’s private property, and they don’t want people coming in without paying.
That thinking of giving away the people power, because people like you give-up is the problem. SORRY, I SHOULD NOT MADE IT A PERSONAL BEFORE.
It absolutely works, there is no way in BLANK politicians & media can ignore all of that happening, heck using The Internet, it is questionable if traditional media is even needed. If people just put-up with it, not will never ever change, except the people.
It will not work in this area, it is a huge busy road with constant traffic. You will get run over. If you bring a big crowd, you will cause a traffic jam as intended, but at the cost of a bunch of pedestrian lives. Is it worth dying for that? If you don’t want to drive, there are buses and trains that go there.
Not just a busy road, but quite literally one of the busiest in the US
What did you mean by “under the USA”? You mean like federal law?
*Edit: typo
Yes
You seem to hold a lot of unjustified faith in federal law.
When the people make those in power uncomfortable, yes I do. Look at what has very recently happened with no real political resistance ‘The Crazy Don’s & his administration’s ‘Mob Enforcers’?
Sorry what do you want the hotel to do in order to make the suburb safe for walking ?
Not just the hotel, anyone who looked at the situation & decided it was good idea to build in that situation. Accountability