• thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    Here’s the functional basis of my system of morality:

    isDeceitful() ? immoral : moral;

    Try viewing that list through this lens. I don’t give a shit about peoples’ choices if they don’t have an appreciable halo effect.

    • cobalt32@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 month ago

      Mine is based on the consent and consensus of the other sentient beings involved. For example, drinking alcohol around people who are cool with you being intoxicated, or doing it alone, is perfectly fine. Getting blackout drunk around people who do not consent to taking care of you is not.

      All forms of hierarchical authority are never moral because they always violate consent and consensus. All governments, corporations, and organized religions are immoral.

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      Mine is a tad more complicated.
      Make a list of all the possible ways to accomplish something that you can think, sort them from the ones that will benefit other living things the most, then the ones that will do the least harm to other living things, and at the bottom, the ones that will do the most harm to other living things.
      When the harm is similar, put first within that range the ones that will do the least harm to those who are cloest to you.
      Once you have the list, try to do what’s at the top of the list. If you can’t, move down the list until you can do what you need to do.

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        1 month ago

        Would the most moral way to kill someone I personally don’t like involve donating all their organs to hospitals? Would the most moral way to get a billion dollars be counterfeiting?

        I think your system fails to address that some things are always immoral.

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          “until you can do what you need to do” adequately addresses both of your examples, nobody needs a billion dollars ever, you do not need to kill people who you personally find unlikable

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          If you have to kill someone to get organs, that’s lower in the list than getting organs from someone who is already dead. Getting organs if the family gives consent causes less pain than the organs being donated, so it goes higher on the list. So the most humane way to get organ donations goes to the top of the list.

          If you counterfeit, you devalue the currency, and you cause harm to those who own that currency because they effectively lose wealth, so it’s lower in the list than earning the currency.

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        1 month ago

        A more accurate way to write my original statement would be:

        isDeceitful() ? immoral : trustButVerify() ;

        I’m saying that honesty is the filter by which I navigate social environments. I allowed the topic to percolate for about a day and jotted down a list of thoughts and observations regarding morality.

        /*
        - morality is a mechanism to find alignment in the social sphere and is heavily
          influenced by coercive traditional dogmas
        
        - noone is responsible for the emotional state of others, which is, in reality,
          an indeterminable state to outside observers. empathy is but a narrow band
          of perception, not ample foundation to codify rules of conduct
         
          - people lie; insecurity is sufficient justification for many
           
        - complicated or overly prescriptive moral frameworks are oft smokescreens
          which allow manipulative/coercive behaviors to proliferate, akin to religious
          dogma
         
          - reaching for good/bad binaries is a clear sign
         
        
        > i posit that a personal philosophy based upon radical honesty minimizes
          misalignment and creates opportunity for low-friction synchronicities
        
        - life doesn't need to be so complicated. humans manifest complexity, to our
          own detriment, in pursuit of ego adornments or to mew for group selection
        
        - introducing fuzzy complexity into our social lives is like application of the
          US tax code
        
        - KISS
        */
        

        edit: wrapped lines for legibility