• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    What a disgusting and terrible framing. Unfortunately typical of chauvinist white saviour racists such as yourself.

    You are absolutely right. I mistyped. I meant to say “How many people did the Chinese government murder in Tienanmen square?” Care to answer? How many were killed?

    He talked with the tank operator before passersby ushered him off

    Where he was arrested and executed or imprisoned for 20+ years depending on who you talk to.

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      19 hours ago

      Where he was arrested and executed or imprisoned for 20+ years depending on who you talk to.

      Yeah if you talk to other white racist westerners who are only interested in spreading orientalist nonsense like yourself and confirming their racist bias. Continuing to show yourself as the closet republican racist you are.

      murder

      Continuing with the disgusting deceptive framing so you can confirm your own racist bias. Respectfully eat shit pig.

      How many were killed?

      Between 2 and 6 hundred including soldiers killed by rioters. (But I’m sure you’ll just call me brainwashed for not saying something like the ridiculous unverified British number of 10,000 plus)

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        17 hours ago

        Yeah if you talk to other white racist westerners who are only interested in spreading orientalist nonsense like yourself and confirming their racist bias.

        This is what happens when the Chinese people don’t have free speech. You can only repeat the lies your government tells you. The Tank Man picture is one of the most iconic photographs in the history of mankind. If he was free, you don’t think some journalist at some point would have interviewed him? Seriously think about it.

        Between 2 and 6 hundred including soldiers killed by rioters.

        By the best estimates by historians not trying to push the CCP or western agendas, 14 soldiers were killed. Around 3,000 protestors occupied the square and held a 7 day hunger strike. They were protesting for economic reasons and for greater political representation. In response the government declared martial law, clearing the square with military force. Hundreds, perhaps thousands were shot, beaten to death, or crushed by armored vehicles. The dead were collected by soldiers, loaded onto trucks, and dumped in unmarked graves. Because of this, no exact number of dead can be known. Reliable estimates vary from several hundred to thousands of dead. We can debate all you want about the death toll, but the fact is that this is what happens when you try to speak freely in China. The CCP does not tolerate free speech. If you go against the party you disappear.

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          17 hours ago

          This is what happens when the Chinese people don’t have free speech. You can only repeat the lies your government tells you. The Tank Man picture is one of the most iconic photographs in the history of mankind. If he was free, you don’t think some journalist at some point would have interviewed him? Seriously think about it.

          Continuing to show your complete lack of understanding of events. “The Tank Man” is a single frame of a video paraded around the west for propaganda sneakily leaving out the fact he was stopping tanks leaving the area. His fame is entirely due to the fabricated story projected onto it by racists westerners such as yourself. Also how are you going to find 1 generic looking middle-aged Chinesean with no clear picture of his face from a grainy video? Seriously think about it. (You won’t because then you might have to re-evaluate your racist chauvinist white saviour arrogance).

          They were protesting for economic reasons and for greater political representation

          Really highlighting you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about. It wasn’t one cohesive protest but tens of factions with their own agendas from hard-line maoists wanting to rollback reforms to students wanting more consumer goods and the end of the focus on supporting the peasantrybat the time.

          I’m going to end this here. Trying to engage with an arrogant racist chauvinist who believes they can explain my country and it’s history to me, who looks down on us as serfs and brainwashed peasants brings me no joy and certainly is an exercise in futility. I would wish you the best but I don’t. I hope you eventually grow beyond your closet republican racism but I have severe doubts you have that capability.

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            15 hours ago

            The iconic Tank Man photo was taken by AP photographer Jeff Widener, but several photographers shot the event.

            sneakily leaving out the fact he was stopping tanks leaving the area.

            That is the entire point of the photo. He was stopping tanks being used to suppress protests.

            It wasn’t one cohesive protest but tens of factions with their own agendas from hard-line maoists wanting to rollback reforms to students wanting more consumer goods and the end of the focus on supporting the peasantrybat the time.

            Doesn’t really matter what position the protestors held. Their speech was suppressed by your government. You keep ignoring that.

            I’m going to end this here.

            Because you can’t admit the truth. All you can do is keep playing the race card.