• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    I’m not sure how it helps. It’s not like neo-Nazis read any books to develop an understanding of their own beliefs. At best, maybe they listened to a podcast episode about it.

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      Neo-Nazis have their beliefs programmed into them by absorbing it from the reality of western imperialism. They don’t have to develop anything, the fascism is right there as a natural tendency of the white westerner. All fascist theory does is give them vocabulary to communicate the internal beliefs that their deranged societies already gave them.

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    Back in my Breadtube watching days, ThoughtSlime did a video on it. I believe they recommended not reading it, but they did cover it’s contents in like a 30 minute video.

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    I’ve read it and there’s actual very little in terms of fascist theory or anything. The author was writing to an idiosyncratic audience with no central organization nor any cohesion. So he kept the deeper belief systems unstated for the most part to avoid infighting. It’s just an idiot racist writing down what he’d really like to happen because he’s a piece of shit.

    It’s supposed to be simply understood that there’s a vast Jewish conspiracy that is somehow dedicated to eradication of white people. It’s simply understood that everyone who isn’t identifiable white is an enemy to all white people. That’s honestly about it. The book is from the perspective of a completely obedient soldier who never questions his mission and even readily does a suicide attack when asked.

    The closest thing to theory or beliefs that gets talked about is at one point the protagonist is taken aside by some racist elders and given something simply called “the book.” The contents aren’t talked about but after reading it the protagonist says he is now committed fully to the mission of a fully white earth. The book is highly implied to be Mein Kampf by Hitler.

  • JohnBrownsBawdy [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    No it’s just bad and is a waste of your time. I’m old, I read it after the OKC bombings to try to figure out wtf the big deal with the book was. Bought a copy at borders (with cash), read it, disposed of it.

    What I remember about it is that it’s just really badly written. The stereotypes I remember it trafficking were so simple, dumb, and weird it was just hard to comprehend.

    There is no insight to be gained; these people are freaks who feel oppressed and want to fantasize about ethnic cleansing. The book was written by and for the dumbest people you can imagine.

  • Guamer [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    It’s pretty much exactly what you think it is: A Nazi describing with one hand his wet dream power fantasy of killing all the people he doesn’t like, whether they be left of Hitler or any shade of brown. It’s just that stretched out to a book.

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    Not really. Its more of a racist’s wet dream put to paper than anything. I had to read that book in a high school debatebro edgy English class. The chaser was Wiesel’s Night, like that would undo the damage.

    You’re better off listening to some fasc bigot crying about how their supremacy was questioned on social media, since that might actually get into specifics of how and why they feel that way, what molded them into it, etc. Going to second the vast majority of fascists, racists, and such don’t go around reading to confirm their gut feelings, and if they do its all the usuals and a 1s 4chan search.

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    The Superstructure Podcast by the more radical member of the QAnonAnonymous podcast did an episode on it. I recommend listening to that instead of reading it.

    Because the book is extremely boring for the most part.

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    The only half decent way to experience that dogshit is by watching two comrades turn it’s stupidity into a drinking game

    I will never stop plugging these guys, they’ve made the fucking Turner Diaries into a yearly listen for me

    I do actually think reading it has value, in that it is so unflinchingly stupid that you gain a new appreciation for the depth of fascist hatred and derangement. By the end, the world is a nuclear wasteland with actual mutants but it’s presented as a happy ending because at least all the non white people are dead too. It is so earnest in it’s wretchedness that I gained new insight into how pathetic it’s author was.

    I say give it a whirl it if you enjoy feeling like this:

  • Piltdowntown [they/them, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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    The entire book is just a revenge fantasy there’s no discussion of neonazi “theory” or anything. Its only unique selling point if you can call it that is that it introduced the phrase “day of the rope” into the racist zeitgeist.

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    Every time I tried to engage with chuds to better understand their beliefs I ended up disappointed. There’s shockingly little to understand. There’s nothing more to it than “in-group good, out-group bad, we must get rid of out-group and world will be good again.” It’s extremely superficial.