does anybody have any israeli connections that they are trying to salvage?
Is there some sort of pipeline to get these people back into regular society?
I feel bad especially for the ones who are 2nd or 3rd gen fully jumped in made (wo)men, never knowing anything else but suckling to the military teet. they are turned into these hideous monsters without dignity. Of course I feel worse for their victims. What can productively be done?
what is to become of these people other than stay behind gladio paperclip infiltrators?
Is there a TRC process ready to go? Or what? If that state just collapsed
is there a concept of how to proceed?
what of the many, many crimes? what if everyone who’d ever served in the IDF was evaluated according to their military file and public statements they’ve made, then prosecuted according to the laws? How many courts would be required? And each person who resides in a stolen home. All incitements to genocide.


We’ve seen similar decolonial efforts in Libya, Angola, and especially Algeria - a lot of people don’t know that these occupations were settler-colonial in nature in a very similar way to South Africa, just in an earlier stage of development. Libya didn’t have to commit an Italian genocide after independence, because the Italian settlers did not want to live as equal citizens in a free Libya.
As always, the key is land ownership. Israelis don’t have “villages”, they have real estate. You don’t need to physically kick them out of their homes (unless the land is claimed by a Palestinian family who can reasonably prove the home belonged to them), you just need to give them a Palestinian landlord and charge them rent. When they are forced to become immigrants instead of settlers, most will willingly leave.
has there ever been such a case of that happening?
that is by no means straight forward. you will end up with competing claims. For one thing there are deeds which exist but were declared invalid because they were issued by the ottoman empire, or jordan, or some other pre-israel state. then the property is seized and distributed to Jewish people by some mechanism.
and what of the properties which were sold because the former owners were subject to terrorism and didn’t have the stomach to live that way? Is it really a legitimate sale?
probably many other complexities exist, especially considering large diaspora families, properties being divided/combined, structures being demolished and constructed.
Can landlords ever be the answer…? The anything? Even zionists.
The PFLP is dead. If it comes back (and I want it to as much as you likely do), we can talk about a more Socialized solution. But I think it’s better, now, to discuss solutions that Hamas and their Palestinian supporters have the political will to pursue, lest we engage in Ultra-Leftism.
And in what I believe would be a best-case scenario for both Palestinian Arabs and what would then again be recognized as Palestinian Jews, is a rentierist regime of wealth extraction (rather than a punitive system that will only incentivize Capital flight) to provide for reparations to the new Palestinian state. Over time Palestinian Jews would live the way they always should have - as free and equal immigrant citizens living a similar life to a Pakistani in London or a Senegalese person in France.
Who exactly owns the land is up to Hamas to decide, but in 95%+ of cases it should be an indigenous Palestinian. Maybe they will be bourgeoise, maybe a village council, maybe a nonprofit-managed fund, maybe an independent family - that’s up for Hamas to decide, and it will likely be a mix of all of those things in different cases. Where there are competing claims and messy ownership custody chains, that will be, again, up to Hamas’ courts and judges to decide. There’s no one big answer; it would be decided on a case-by-case basis, likely according to Sharia law.
My point is to provide a more realistic and compassionate but no less ruthless vision for Palestinian decolonisation than Hamas militants sweeping through the country putting a bullet in the head of every Jew (which is the cartoonish fiction that many Zionists fear). It would be an ownership reset where former Settlers would be required to pay rent to Palestine in order to live there. There would be resistance, yes, and violent response to that resistance. There will be evictions. Direct perpetrators of genocide and settler violence - IDF officers, “illegal” settlers, former politicians, etc. - will be executed.
Proletarian Jews are already paying rent, and so paying that rent to a Palestinian instead of an Israeli will barely make a difference to their lives. Most land is not bound up in single-family suburban homes, and those parcels are the least important for what I’m talking about, because they are not profitable. The important land is in apartment blocs and office towers, factories, farming estates, mines, and traditionally-managed village grounds.