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  • The point is to pick out the users that only like to pick fights or start trouble, and don’t have a lot that they do other than that, which is a significant number. You can see some of them in these comments.

    Ok then that makes sense on why you chose these specific mechanics for how it works. Does that mean hostile but popular comments in the wrong communities would have a pass though?

    For example let’s assume that most people on Lemmy love cars (probably not the case but lets go with it) and there are a few commenters that consistently shows up in the !fuck_cars@lemmy.ml or !fuckcars@lemmy.world community to show why everyone in that community is wrong. Or vice a versa

    Since most people scroll all it could be the case that those comments get elevated and comments from people that community is supposed to be for get downvoted.

    I mean its not that much of a deal now because most values are shared across Lemmy but I can already see that starting to shift a bit.

    I was reminded of this meme a bit

    Initially, I was looking at the bot as its own entity with its own opinions, but I realized that it’s not doing anything more than detecting the will of the community with as good a fidelity as I can achieve.

    Yeah that’s the main benefit I see that would come from this bot. Especially if it is just given in the form of suggestions, it is still human judgements that are making most of the judgement calls, and the way it makes decisions are transparent (like the appeal community you suggested).

    I still think that instead of the bot considering all of Lemmy as one community it would be better if moderators can provide focus for it because there are differences in values between instances and communities that I think should reflect in the moderation decisions that are taken.

    However if you aren’t planning on developing that side of it more I think you could probably still let the other moderators that want to test the bot see notifications from it anytime it has a suggestion for a community user ban (edit: for clarification) as a test run. Good luck.

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  • But in general, one reason I really like the idea is that it’s getting away from one individual making decisions about what is and isn’t toxic and outsourcing it more to the community at large and how they feel about it, which feels more fair.

    Yeah that does sound useful it is just that there are some communities where it isn’t necessarily clear who is a jerk and who has a controversial minority opinion. For example how do you think the bot would’ve handled the vegan community debacle that happened. There were a lot of trusted users who were not necessarily on the side of vegans and it could’ve made those communities revert back to a norm of what users think to be good and bad.

    I think giving people some insight into how it works, and ability to play with the settings, so to speak, so they feel confident that it’s on their side instead of being a black box, is a really good idea. I tried some things along those lines, but I didn’t get very far along.

    If you’d want I can help with that. Like you said it sounds like a good way of decentralizing moderation so that we have less problems with power tripping moderators and more transparent decisions. I just want it so that communities can keep their specific values while easing their moderation burden.

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  • Honestly I love the direction you are going with this. I agree with you about the abundance especially if the people in this world have culturally shifted so that most things do get shared. And I do think that in a real life transition we would definitely see a lot of people scavenging and recycling stuff and relying on each other for daily needs.

    I also think it would be cool to see how much of nature we can use to enhance existing technology or maybe even create a whole new tech tree that is run with mutual relationships with different organisms. Like there was a group of scientist that found bacteria that produce concrete when exposed to water and another group that is working on a chemical computers. What if we reinforce buildings by planting trees that grew around them, worked with some animals to build stuff that benefits both them and us at the same time, or used organic computing (maybe using slime molds) to do complex, long term, calculations without the need for electricity and it being much less fragile.

    The thing is that for what I’m describing it wouldn’t be something that we fully realize in our generation but I do think it would lead to a society that could sustain itself indefinitely if we chose to live below the regeneration rate for the material or organisms we chose.

    Edit: I was thinking about this only because I watched some stuff by Ronald wright and it has stuck quite a bit. specifically this if you are interested: https://youtu.be/S1ypWcqnojM (tried invidious but didn’t work)

    Edit2: Also there are a few things I disagree with like his views on population control and his belief on the reliance of governments for change but his analysis is spot on.

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  • I think a lot of the planning for their scenes comes from the solarpunk prompts podcast these days.

    I remember seeing a post on here about that podcast and added it to the list of podcasts I’m listening to.

    They’ve been doing a bunch of cool solarpunk art for a bit, and they’ve started releasing it CC-BY

    Huh I didn’t know that. I’ll make sure to keep out an eye for their work. Btw was looking through your website and I like how thought out your photobashes are.

    Also as an aside since it seems you put a lot of thought into this kind of stuff do you have any thoughts on how much of a solarpunk future can run on only renewable material? I see a lot of art that focuses on solar panels and stuff but I’ve recently been thinking that it might not be possible to have too many of those long term because repairing them probably would require a complex supply chain and extraction process that we probably would have to move away from as society gets transformed.

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