Stats from here: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Like, has an instance gone down and if so, why hasn’t there been a comparable drop in users and comments?

Edit: Thanks to @example@reddthat.com here for pointing to zerobytes.monster becoming more aggressive against bots as the likely culprit.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    96·
    3 days ago

    It may have been lemmy.zip

    It did in fact go down for about 48 hours… prompting me to make this new account on dbzer0.

    Basically, the admin attempted to update to a newer lemmy version… and it failed, multiple times, and they just rolled back, restored the old version, posted an explanation and apology, and they’ll be further looking into … exactly what went wrong.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        10·
        3 days ago

        i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

        I don’t know exactly how that post counter … actually, technically counts posts, but:

        1:

        Zip going down could have uncounted all posts anywhere made by zip accounts.

        2:

        There could have been some kind of… propogating post count negation effect, as various other instances reacted differently to zip users posts on their instances could not pull them anymore, on different time scales.

        3:

        If a zip user had a … top level comment, on another instance, its possible all lower level comments responding to that comment may also have poofed out of existence, in some respect.

        …

        I may be misusing some terminology here, and this is just spitballing, but yeah.

        Almost all of my .zip account’s posts/comments… are not on zip itself, and its possible that that is fairly common amongst .zip users.

        • flamingos-cant@feddit.ukOPEnglish
          81·
          3 days ago

          i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

          ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ => ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          Just so we’re clear, what this crawler does is go through all servers that use ActivityPub known to it, and congregate that data to a list of known services (Lemmy, Mastodon, Piefed etc.). How is does that is by querying a standardised end point to get the instance info (.well-known/nodeinfo which will then point to a different path to get the actual info).

          For instance, here’s what it will collect for feddit.uk:

          nodeinfo json 
          // curl -s https://feddit.uk/nodeinfo/2.1 | jq
{
  "version": "2.1",
  "software": {
    "name": "lemmy",
    "version": "0.19.10-feddit",
    "repository": "https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy",
    "homepage": "https://join-lemmy.org/"
  },
  "protocols": [
    "activitypub"
  ],
  "usage": {
    "users": {
      "total": 4184,
      "activeHalfyear": 718,
      "activeMonth": 485
    },
    "localPosts": 25750,
    "localComments": 122835
  },
  "openRegistrations": true,
  "services": {
    "inbound": [],
    "outbound": []
  },
  "metadata": {}
}

          The important stat here is the localPosts, which is all the posts made by local users in any community, local or remote. It does not include posts by users from remote instances made in local communities. You can also see this data on the instance sidebar in lemmy-ui.

          lemmy.zip going down will only reduce aggregated stats for total posts by 47,280, as that’s what they report for their localPosts.

    • tisktisk@piefed.socialEnglish
      202·
      3 days ago

      Is divide by zero becoming the most based instance? How did a single bro make best lemmy?!?

      • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        21·
        3 days ago

        It’s a pretty cool instance. The governance is transparent with a nuanced voting system, the rules and policies are indeed based, and db0 takes decentralization so seriously that he’s apparently working on safeguarding the instance against his own influence with the governance system and admin recall votes and such.

        Thanks db0 et al!

      • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        10·
        3 days ago

        I’d say dbzer0 is probably the most leftist, at least from what I’ve seen. I personally don’t go as far as being an anarchist but can appreciate the philosophy. I probably have more in common with anarchy than democratic/plurality governance, if I’m being honest with myself.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4·
            2 days ago

            If I were to pronounce it outloud, I would say:

            D. B. Zero.

            Like D. B. Cooper, lol.

            the… zer(o), 0 swap is… basically old school l33tsp34k… like uh… l00tb0x, pr0n, type of … dialect? syntax?

        • moakley@lemmy.worldEnglish
          52·
          3 days ago

          Lately I’ve been seeing a lot of comments coming from that instance that are indistinguishable from the ones I see from .ml.

          • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            102·
            3 days ago

            There are secret tankies. But instance admins do not like tankies.

            If they start denying/downplaying Tiananmen Massacre, they will get banned.

            dbzer0 is just very anti imperialism of all types, USA, Russia, China, is all bad.

            The admin db0 does have a distrust in democracy and the electoral process and they have a “don’t vote in elections” stance which I have voiced my disagreement with, and I have not been banned.

            I’ve citicized USA, Russia, China and not been banned. db0 seems to be sympathetic to Ukraine in the Russo-Ukrainian war.

            TLDR: dbzer0 are not tankies