On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR “apology” (ironic)

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    they are not bigot, they just dont live in an echo chamber.

    whether you like it or not, there’s lots people not thinking like you. I’m not one of them, just to clarify before I suddenly become a bigot, but people like that do exist, in masses

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      If you “have an opinion about transgender people” that involves taking away their rights, or putting them in harms way and that prioritises the needs of everyone else first, and the needs of trans people last, if at all, then you have a bigoted opinion.

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        and where exactly was that my opinion? it is not an opinion, that such people exist. that is a sad and hard fact.

        but sure, kill the messenger, call me a bigot for pointing out reality.

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          I wasn’t talking about you, I was talking in general, and the specific context was the person earlier in this discussion, who you explicitly stated is not a bigot.

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            So where exactly did the earlier guy state that was his opinion? He got called a bigot simply immediately after calling the issue controversial, not because he said he believed the things that you claimed.

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              Again, if you “have an opinion about transgender people” that involves taking away their rights, or putting them in harms way and that prioritises the needs of everyone else first, and the needs of trans people last, if at all, then you have a bigoted opinion. It’s a universal statement.

              The person you were replying to described Nutomics position as “It’s hard for me to imagine a more agreeable and reasonable statement.” And as a reminder, Nutomics post was a statement complaining about pride flags on public buildings, calling transgender women “men” and stating that trans folk are a conspiracy/distraction pushed by the bourgeoisie, despite rich conservatives being largely responsible for the wave of trans hatred we’re currently experiencing.

              That is pure transphobia.

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                True, he did say that on another comment, but the argument given here for why he is a bigot is not that comment, its the fact that he said this is a controversial topic.

                If the guy who accused him of being a bigot wasn’t simply referring to his argument about the controversial nature but based on his actually bigoted views, then he should make it clearer.

                We should have better standards of communication when accusing people of being a bigot, because badly delivered sane messages can actually sound pretty insane to people who weren’t in the loop from the start.

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      A lot of people thought that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to go to school.