It seems like all propaganda accounts went quiet and a few other things. Feels deader than usual.
USAID got shut down. Remember?
I’ve been meaning to make a thread about an IRL vibe shift. I go jogging a few times a week and I live in an area that’s really touristy in the summer. I usually say “free palestine” to people as I pass them. 99% of the time, people just ignore me. I’ve said this to hundreds of people. This is a rich white liberal area and you need some money to vacation here. Only one person has ever answered me positively, and she seemed to be an Indian college student. This was months ago. But a few days ago I went jogging, and tourists were here for the first time this summer. I said free palestine as I passed them on my jog. And two of them agreed with me. Two! On the first day! Two white people! So I have to wonder if some sort of vibe shift is taking place. A majority of Americans disapproves of isntreal for the first time. Are the libs just pretending to be socialists when they’re out of power (and will they revert to “everything good is impossible” mode once they get back into the White House?) or is this a permanent change? It happened again yesterday. Not many people were out, but I said free palestine to two white boomers, and one ignored me while the other agreed with me! What is happening?
I feel like the chuds aren’t nearly as happy online as they were during the first trump presidency
Realising deporting “illegals” hasn’t made their shitty lives any better
I did recently hear a Trump voter just being perplexed by the idea of tariffs, and he was seemingly aware that they had not helped lower the price of anything.
Nah, they’re too demonic for introspection, they’re just disappointed but don’t know why or for what
I actually do think it has to do with the material conditions.
Of course it does, but they are unable to understand that. You can try explaining it to them, and it sometimes works, but within a day they usually go back to whatever chud bullshit they believe in. It will take decades of deprogramming to educate them about it.
I wish they’d realize this, but I doubt they ever will.
I’m not American but we do a similar thing…the blame will just shift elsewhere.
For example, in the 90s it was teen and single mums.
I feel like the chuds aren’t nearly as happy
onlineas they were during the first trump presidencyThings have materially gotten worse, and they have steeped in their hatred for so long that I think it’s gone rancid. It’s not even the “fun” kind of hate, just the poisonous kind.
That and the libs have lost their minds.
Oh wait, they always do that.
Joker when batman “dies”
I’ve been avoiding most internet because I have no temptation to hear the opinions of idiots.
Two people who aren’t Ukrainian, don’t speak Ukrainian, have never read a book about Ukraine trying to make their opinion on Ukraine win an argument? No thanks, not my choice of pastime.
Maybe I’m part of a trend? People have seen through the slapfights and are ready for something else?
I want to learn from experts, not tabloid comment-sections. e.g. this is good content - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhn3ssSH4nY - look at her CV, she has a right to speak.
In a lot of ways I feel the same way you do. The only “social media” I’m on is Reddit, and that place really exemplifies this very American (though others have it too) idea that you can be relatively ignorant about something but you can and should be 1,000% convinced your opinion is correct.
But I also find there’s a lot of great discussion among fellow travelers on places like Reddit. Some I’m really trying to manage my engagement and stick to places that have productive discussion (like Hexbear) and ignore everything else.
they usually think “freedom of speech” means “my uneducated opinion is just as valid as a specialist’s”
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I recently made the observation that my friends all seem to have fewer
takes. Like, “blue no matter who” people are coming around to materialism.people are coming around to materialism.
The beauty of declining living standards
Of course it would take them watching Kamala Harris spend their donation money on a $100,000 set for “Call her Daddy” and lose the election to Donald Trump.
They keep telling me accelerationism is bad, but how did they expect to deworm the Western brain without it?
I don’t think acceleration got us here. Palestine as a wedge issue is forcing the entire right wing to stand together. That’s useful and has radicalized the masses. It pushes people to develop class consciousness. Worsening conditions doesn’t automatically deworm people, the information environment also has to prime them to question the fascistic world order that underpins their society.
Besides we can already count on the fash to do right acceleration, that’s just their playbook. You have more options if you let your opponent throw the first punch.
anecdotally i feel like i experienced the same thing during trump 1 because he heightens the contradictions so much by saying the quiet part out loud all day every day. but a lot of the new class consciousness i thought was forming disappeared overnight once brandon got in and let the libs go back to brunch
this is exactly what i noticed with western libs.
and its not even like their conditions improve with democrats, it seems they just ‘feel’ like it is. propaganda is a hell of a drug.
it really does come down to “the news is telling me to be mad” vs “the news is telling me everything is fine” for the vast majority of people
I too have noticed that the normie vibes are in perfect lock step with what the MSM says. My dad for example didn’t seem to think anything questionable was happening in Palestine until the day that 60 minutes did a special on Hind Rajib. Then, suddenly, maybe those activists were onto something.
I’m noticing the same thing. I’m used to getting huge pushback when I’m fully honest with the people around me about what I think and What Is To Be Done. Since the last year, though, people just nod along mostly (maybe it’s just that my kind of rhetoric has lost its novelty as more people become aware of the ‘tankie’ phenomenon). Honestly, it makes me a bit concerned because I feel like people are at the point where they understand the power that capital has, its intentions, and what’s necessary to overcome it; those things actually are fairly clear just from looking around. But they are missing something that those of us who read a bunch of theory got: they don’t know that capitalism is guaranteed to create the conditions for its own destruction, so in their minds the seemingly insurmountable odds of the working class seizing power are not just seemingly insurmountable, but really impossible.
I had a discussion at work the other day where I floated a very material analysis of a situation and my lib co-workers very much agreed with me and commended me for my great insights. It was weird but welcome.
Have also noticed this in my family libs. Still lots of brainworms, but views on for example China are very different from something like 5 years ago.
The grifter paychecks really dried up after the USAID cuts
They are moving to .world
I pretty much only use lemmy and a youtube subscription feed (no algorithmic recommendations) so tbh no. By propaganda accounts do you mean leftist agitprop or state sanctioned propaganda
