• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catEnglish
    50·
    4 天前

    I will for-real never understand the connection between “I like communism and power for working people” and “I support China and Russia.” The two statements simply have nothing at all to do with each other, they’re not compatible. I’ve asked some of them to explain it to me, and the closest I’ve gotten to an answer has been more or less that they don’t like the US, so they will support an enemy of the US, no matter how horrifying the enemy is or what crimes they are committing or whether they are communist or not.

    Congratulations, guys, you invented CIA logic. It was one of the dominant forces making the 20th century worse, which is saying quite a lot, and now you’re deep-throating it like you’re training for an event.

    • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
      19·
      4 天前

      Yeah, ultimately they are just hypocritically anti west. It’s never any deeper than that. Even when they try to deflect claiming you haven’t read enough theory. It’s like brother, have you ever thought critically? I’ve read most of C.S. Lewis’s books of fiction. But I’m not constantly expecting any lions or witches in my wardrobe.

      • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catEnglish
        12·
        4 天前

        Yeah. Even if they were just anti-West, it would be fine. I talked with someone around the first time Trump got elected who was super in favor of him, and he explained to me “The US keeps fucking up my country, and so if they put a moron in charge and he fucks up your country instead then (a) good (b) you deserve it © maybe then you’ll leave us alone.” I had absolutely no room to disagree with him. It made perfect sense.

        But on Lemmy, it’s never that. It’s always “There is no genocide in Xinjiang you’re just deluded by Western propaganda anyway it’s all NATO’s fault that half of Ukraine is a big rubble field and graveyard and Russia never lies, here watch Tucker Carlson and Dmitri Peskov, there’s a couple of guys who’ve got their heads on straight.” I guess it is cognitive dissonance, nobody wants to just say “Yes I am on team murderer because I don’t like your government, and regardless of what I say or do my guys are going to keep killing Ukrainian kids, so what’s the point of my trying to say they shouldn’t.”

        • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
          9·
          4 天前

          Yep, I legit have no beef with anyone that’s against the wests manipulation/exploitation of other countries/groups. Just those that would use it as an excuse or reason for others to do the same. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

    • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      2 天前

      The difference between anarcho-communists tankies and regular communists is that anarcho-communists tankiesbeleive any means are necessary in achieving a communist society, even the violation of human rights and the rise of fascism.

      They’ve deluded themselves into thinking dictators like Stalin, Mao, Putin, and Xi will at some point decide to benevolently create an equal society instead of holding on to wealth and power at the expense of their subjects.