UK is implementing law for age verification on nsfw content, that’s the jist of it.
Some services are choosing to simply not serve the UK rather than deal with the faff and/or the privacy concerns. lemmy.zip where I am from is one of them.
Blame lies squarely with the UK gov & Online Safety Act. It’s a shit law made to pander to the ‘think of the children’ types that are incapable of parenting, also coming with the bonus of grift and doxxing concerns by companies that move in to provide the service.
I don’t blame any site operator that chooses to simply not play. VPN goes on, normal service resumes.
It’s also several hundred pages long. Fair few web forums are closing because of it if they are UK hosted too.
It would be interesting to get a legal opinion on what about it actually impacts lemmy instances tbh. Obviously one option is to go “lol fuck off” if the UK complain and you are not in the UK.
They can notify the hosting company that the server is violating UK law, the registrars, and payment services. This is the fear for sites not hosted in the UK. There are inter-country agreements to support civil actions.
It was rejected once, and will be rejected again. At least if people mobilize a bit against it. There’s a long way from Commission proposal to law.
Equating the proposal of a law with the adaptation of it is highly misleading. The EU is a complex institution where different bodies are pulling in different directions.
I would like to know which EU law it is they are takling about, aa they proclaim pretty boldly that the Union is adapting “similar Regulations”. I follow EU politics somewhat closely and I have no idea what they are talking about.
The Commission has published some guidelines and recommendations, which are as legally binding as a fart.
As for chat control: With that attitude, probably.
As for chat control: With that attitude, probably.
That attitude isn’t the problem.
Look around on Lemmy. People are saying that the EU needs to enforce its law against Big Tech. It must protect its citizens. It’s about “our values”. Blah blah blah…
When that happens, you immediately get age verification. Germany had a social media service called StudiVZ. It was forced to segregate minors to a separate service. American social media not doing that is an example of them not following our laws and our values (not mine, not sure whose).
These big corpos make big money by enabling pedos to groom children. We need to hold them accountable and force them to stop that! Does that make sense? Well, now you have to make Big Tech read private messages to search for suspicious activity. There’s your chat control.
What exactly do you think a Commission blueprint is?
It’s nothing but soft power and hardly even that, little more than just thinking out loud. It has no implications whatsoever unless member states decide they want to implement the ideas nationally, in which case it’s on them. The Commission cannot implement EU law unilaterally.
As for chat contol, that’s about banning true encryption. Very different from regulating big tech.
Yeah, there’s no guarantees against stupidity in the member states. That’s easier to reverse than if it happens in an EU regulation.
This kind of misinformation is why people get confused and vote for right wing eurosceptic parties, which ironically tends to be the parties most eager to strip people’s rights away.
UK is implementing law for age verification on nsfw content, that’s the jist of it.
Some services are choosing to simply not serve the UK rather than deal with the faff and/or the privacy concerns. lemmy.zip where I am from is one of them.
Blame lies squarely with the UK gov & Online Safety Act. It’s a shit law made to pander to the ‘think of the children’ types that are incapable of parenting, also coming with the bonus of grift and doxxing concerns by companies that move in to provide the service.
I don’t blame any site operator that chooses to simply not play. VPN goes on, normal service resumes.
It’s also several hundred pages long. Fair few web forums are closing because of it if they are UK hosted too.
It would be interesting to get a legal opinion on what about it actually impacts lemmy instances tbh. Obviously one option is to go “lol fuck off” if the UK complain and you are not in the UK.
They can notify the hosting company that the server is violating UK law, the registrars, and payment services. This is the fear for sites not hosted in the UK. There are inter-country agreements to support civil actions.
“It’s a shit law made to pander to the *‘think of the children’* types that are incapable of parenting”
This.
Whenever someone says that there law is to protect:
You know that it’s full of hidden shit.
UK has always been a nanny state. Surprised it took them so long.
I lived there for 10 years from 2000, it seemed to come uo every year or two whil I was there - fuck them
The EU is also adopting similar regulations.
Are you talking about chat control?
It was rejected once, and will be rejected again. At least if people mobilize a bit against it. There’s a long way from Commission proposal to law.
Equating the proposal of a law with the adaptation of it is highly misleading. The EU is a complex institution where different bodies are pulling in different directions.
I think they are talking about age verification for something like porn ^^'!
For the chatcontrol thing, it’s only a matter of when and not if.
I would like to know which EU law it is they are takling about, aa they proclaim pretty boldly that the Union is adapting “similar Regulations”. I follow EU politics somewhat closely and I have no idea what they are talking about.
The Commission has published some guidelines and recommendations, which are as legally binding as a fart.
As for chat control: With that attitude, probably.
On EU age verification: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-age-verification
That attitude isn’t the problem.
Look around on Lemmy. People are saying that the EU needs to enforce its law against Big Tech. It must protect its citizens. It’s about “our values”. Blah blah blah…
When that happens, you immediately get age verification. Germany had a social media service called StudiVZ. It was forced to segregate minors to a separate service. American social media not doing that is an example of them not following our laws and our values (not mine, not sure whose).
These big corpos make big money by enabling pedos to groom children. We need to hold them accountable and force them to stop that! Does that make sense? Well, now you have to make Big Tech read private messages to search for suspicious activity. There’s your chat control.
What exactly do you think a Commission blueprint is?
It’s nothing but soft power and hardly even that, little more than just thinking out loud. It has no implications whatsoever unless member states decide they want to implement the ideas nationally, in which case it’s on them. The Commission cannot implement EU law unilaterally.
As for chat contol, that’s about banning true encryption. Very different from regulating big tech.
Sure. And that is why I think chat control will happen.
To give you a concrete exemple, while it isn’t directly relates to EU laws, France enforced age verification for pornsite to protect the children !
So it seems to me they are slowly, bit by bit, enforcing those stupid laws not EU wise, but country by country ^^!
Yeah, there’s no guarantees against stupidity in the member states. That’s easier to reverse than if it happens in an EU regulation.
This kind of misinformation is why people get confused and vote for right wing eurosceptic parties, which ironically tends to be the parties most eager to strip people’s rights away.